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"CYROX"Is this spell op? We are yet to really determine imo, Needs a good few weeks monitoring. On top of this mages in dsoma don't have a choise - they are a mage and therefor need to work toward the spell. Hsoma can still specialise in other stuff or chose not to get it. Or everyone could get it - requiring more prerequisits to prevent this. And as I read it dsoma needs items from melee mobs too (hsoma too but they can just do a str lvls). DSoma mages will have a hard time hunting that for themselves so they are dependent on other people.
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[quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="CYROX"]Is this spell op? We are yet to really determine imo, Needs a good few weeks monitoring.
However, i don't agree with all these comments from hsoma as it needs to be as easy to get as dsoma.
Dsoma mages needed a buff....Hsoma mages do not.
A new spell is introduced, why should it be equal effort from both sides?
The spell is obviously poweful and gives the devil mages a needed boost. By no means have i seen it in action to understand if it is op, but that is besides the point.
Hsoma mages however, are the most dominant class on hsoma and do not need a boost. This spell being very hard to achieve is a good thing.[/quote]
On top of this mages in dsoma don't have a choise - they are a mage and therefor need to work toward the spell. Hsoma can still specialise in other stuff or chose not to get it. Or everyone could get it - requiring more prerequisits to prevent this.
And as I read it dsoma needs items from melee mobs too (hsoma too but they can just do a str lvls). DSoma mages will have a hard time hunting that for themselves so they are dependent on other people.[/quote]
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#91 2014/09/07 11:12:23 |
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FUJITORA |
"GHOSTLORD"And as I read it dsoma needs items from melee mobs too (hsoma too but they can just do a str lvls). DSoma mages will have a hard time hunting that for themselves so they are dependent on other people. Its probably quite the contrary, every single high level devil hunts wbm and will pick up those items and since they have no use are probably sitting in every melle devils wh, just waiting to be given away.
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[quote="FUJITORA"][quote="GHOSTLORD"]And as I read it dsoma needs items from melee mobs too (hsoma too but they can just do a str lvls). DSoma mages will have a hard time hunting that for themselves so they are dependent on other people.[/quote]
Its probably quite the contrary, every single high level devil hunts wbm and will pick up those items and since they have no use are probably sitting in every melle devils wh, just waiting to be given away.[/quote]
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#92 2014/09/07 21:02:50 |
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Nah, they do have use, i know for a fact in efukt atleast 100s of met/bones have been used crafting an item, and by no means are they easy, i can see 1 bone hunting for 10+ hours at wbm, metal maybe 5, theres probaly more items yet to find still but nobody even bothers to find them, the only guy who did was the original user of arrow wich no longer plays
The difference is once everyone has one, yes they will stack up in wh's but thats just the way dsoma has always been once u get an item as no dura degrade on items
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[quote="MONSTER"]Nah, they do have use, i know for a fact in efukt atleast 100s of met/bones have been used crafting an item, and by no means are they easy, i can see 1 bone hunting for 10+ hours at wbm, metal maybe 5, theres probaly more items yet to find still but nobody even bothers to find them, the only guy who did was the original user of arrow wich no longer plays
The difference is once everyone has one, yes they will stack up in wh's but thats just the way dsoma has always been once u get an item as no dura degrade on items[/quote]
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#93 2014/09/07 21:12:35 |
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STYLE |
Drazil seem the problem monster.
Anyway of adding Drazil liver and blg liver? Only dropping from conti? Hunting Drazil will ruin a character in the long run, in theory anyway. |
#94 2014/09/08 12:03:34 |
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Yeah Drazil are one of those monsters that people dont hunt at all for stats. And because it doesnt have a dedicated spawn people just hunt BLG for better drops/stats per % :-).
I stil believe that the main problem here is that the requirements should be changed slightly. I think that we all agree that 120 INT is too low of a requirement. Furthermore I think that 90% of Humans would like Drazil livers/Horror Eyes and Prism Crystals to be dropped in our maps too. not just Conti. So if nothing changes then the 1st human to get Zombie or Dispel Aura will be in like 5-10 months.
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[quote="NITE"]Yeah Drazil are one of those monsters that people dont hunt at all for stats. And because it doesnt have a dedicated spawn people just hunt BLG for better drops/stats per % :-).
I stil believe that the main problem here is that the requirements should be changed slightly. I think that we all agree that 120 INT is too low of a requirement.
Furthermore I think that 90% of Humans would like Drazil livers/Horror Eyes and Prism Crystals to be dropped in our maps too. not just Conti.
So if nothing changes then the 1st human to get Zombie or Dispel Aura will be in like 5-10 months.[/quote]
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#95 2014/09/08 13:40:07 |
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Not to buck the trend and that but I quite like the concept of mats being conti only. Also like it being ridic hard to get a hold of the mats. It's a strong spell - should require effort even if that means months of no one having.
Might get a few actually going to wotw. 120int for hsoma is too low though - realistically I think 150 or so would be better suited ;o
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[quote="IPHIOS"]Not to buck the trend and that but I quite like the concept of mats being conti only. Also like it being ridic hard to get a hold of the mats. It's a strong spell - should require effort even if that means months of no one having.
Might get a few actually going to wotw.
120int for hsoma is too low though - realistically I think 150 or so would be better suited ;o[/quote]
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#96 2014/09/08 14:00:44 |
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"IPHIOS"Not to buck the trend and that but I quite like the concept of mats being conti only. Also like it being ridic hard to get a hold of the mats. It's a strong spell - should require effort even if that means months of no one having. If the items are going to be conti related then surely they should be conti related to dsoma as well, on top of the fact their items have been in game for how long? I think that's what is pissing a few people off
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[quote="YOSHIMITSU"][quote="IPHIOS"]Not to buck the trend and that but I quite like the concept of mats being conti only. Also like it being ridic hard to get a hold of the mats. It's a strong spell - should require effort even if that means months of no one having.
Might get a few actually going to wotw.
120int for hsoma is too low though - realistically I think 150 or so would be better suited ;o[/quote]
If the items are going to be conti related then surely they should be conti related to dsoma as well, on top of the fact their items have been in game for how long? I think that's what is pissing a few people off[/quote]
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#97 2014/09/08 15:10:49 |
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Devils don't need added incentive to win wow, they have enough already. I think the hsoma items were made conti only to make more humans turn up, because the vast majority of humans have no incentive whatsoever to make any effort going to wow.
That said, wouldn't hurt making their items conti only. But late now though. Agree with iphios that the spell is so powerful it shouldn't be one that everyone has, the idea that you have to put a sh*tload of hours in to get it is really good, when you get it it's a proper achievement. Just a shame it wasn't the same on dsoma as it's so powerful it should have taken them a bit longer than a week or whatever it was to get it, even if they did need a buff.
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[quote="SATAN2"]Devils don't need added incentive to win wow, they have enough already. I think the hsoma items were made conti only to make more humans turn up, because the vast majority of humans have no incentive whatsoever to make any effort going to wow.
That said, wouldn't hurt making their items conti only. But late now though.
Agree with iphios that the spell is so powerful it shouldn't be one that everyone has, the idea that you have to put a sh*tload of hours in to get it is really good, when you get it it's a proper achievement. Just a shame it wasn't the same on dsoma as it's so powerful it should have taken them a bit longer than a week or whatever it was to get it, even if they did need a buff.[/quote]
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#98 2014/09/08 15:30:19 |
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IPHIOS |
"YOSHIMITSU""IPHIOS"Not to buck the trend and that but I quite like the concept of mats being conti only. Also like it being ridic hard to get a hold of the mats. It's a strong spell - should require effort even if that means months of no one having. I can appreciate that but dsoma mages don't get an easy ride in general. Wouldn't say there is anything to gain from a human perspective to make it overly difficult for devils to obtain. - cant comment from dsoma stand point as I don't play dsoma atm ;o Just saying I don't feel hard done by as the spell has made dsoma mages a sought after ally or whatever whereas it's not exactly a major requirement in hsoma.
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[quote="IPHIOS"][quote="YOSHIMITSU"][quote="IPHIOS"]Not to buck the trend and that but I quite like the concept of mats being conti only. Also like it being ridic hard to get a hold of the mats. It's a strong spell - should require effort even if that means months of no one having.
Might get a few actually going to wotw.
120int for hsoma is too low though - realistically I think 150 or so would be better suited ;o[/quote]
If the items are going to be conti related then surely they should be conti related to dsoma as well, on top of the fact their items have been in game for how long? I think that's what is pissing a few people off[/quote]
I can appreciate that but dsoma mages don't get an easy ride in general. Wouldn't say there is anything to gain from a human perspective to make it overly difficult for devils to obtain. - cant comment from dsoma stand point as I don't play dsoma atm ;o
Just saying I don't feel hard done by as the spell has made dsoma mages a sought after ally or whatever whereas it's not exactly a major requirement in hsoma.[/quote]
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#99 2014/09/08 16:45:23 |
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Agree 100% with iphios. I understand the frustrations by others however to me the separate realms aren't comparable.
Still think the spells should be a minimum of 150 int though. |
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"QUIMM"Agree 100% with iphios. I understand the frustrations by others however to me the separate realms aren't comparable. You cant speak. You'll just pay your pilot to farm for you when your pilot gets you to level 100 :)
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[quote="NITE"][quote="QUIMM"]Agree 100% with iphios. I understand the frustrations by others however to me the separate realms aren't comparable.
Still think the spells should be a minimum of 150 int though. [/quote]
You cant speak. You'll just pay your pilot to farm for you when your pilot gets you to level 100 :)[/quote]
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#101 2014/09/08 17:42:00 |
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NITE |
and when iphios hits level 100 in a few days he'll be okay to farm away :)
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#102 2014/09/08 17:42:44 |
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NOTMAT |
"NITE"and when iphios hits level 100 in a few days he'll be okay to farm away :) Him or his pilot? |
#103 2014/09/08 18:17:33 |
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"NOTMAT""NITE"and when iphios hits level 100 in a few days he'll be okay to farm away :) Rofl. |
#104 2014/09/08 18:23:07 |
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#105 2014/09/08 18:26:30 |
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