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don't need to get you banned LOL much more fun destroying you at gvw goat Lululululul
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#91 2015/04/23 14:11:24 |
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WAGAWAGA |
Let's not give too much importance.... to the end it's just a game!!!! I'm glad it does you good you kill me I'm probably being more important than I expected :) |
#92 2015/04/23 14:20:07 |
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NIGHTCRAWLER |
Might just have to dig up the convo between me and the original monster saying that he rents his char to stones.
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#93 2015/04/23 15:59:52 |
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BASIL |
Keep this on topic ..
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#94 2015/04/23 16:08:05 |
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NIGHTCRAWLER |
meh , I agree I suppose.
my opinion is basically the same as every non-archer. Archers were swarmed at the start of the server because of range ect. If archers ever got a boost of attack, then whats the point in other classes? they get 200dex as it is and if you decide to punch, you can easily get over 200 str. While axers sit at what 120dex or something rofl?
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[quote="NIGHTCRAWLER"]meh , I agree I suppose.
my opinion is basically the same as every non-archer.
Archers were swarmed at the start of the server because of range ect.
If archers ever got a boost of attack, then whats the point in other classes? they get 200dex as it is and if you decide to punch, you can easily get over 200 str.
While axers sit at what 120dex or something rofl?[/quote]
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#95 2015/04/23 16:19:30 |
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CARNAGE |
Even now archers are still the most capped class number wise and I'm pretty sure make up the majority of the level 90+ uncapped.
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#96 2015/04/23 16:24:18 |
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i dunno im verry sorry bout this lost the main probleme here the true is half of pple here when they need somthing they run to stones ... stonzy stonzy plz gime this that lend me this that i never said no .. 1 day i said no looke wot happend specialy intheface now shiting on me and started opend olf folders for stones buying chars n rent chars
NIGHTCRAWLER if u say that i rent monster and ur freind wiz aiden ask him m8 ... tell him to take hes char back ... im not like you pple think money can buy evry thing .. its freindship buy evrything i dont need to tell you who im you all no so evry1 keep ur busninse farr away from me and please stop talking bout me and shits tbh i dont care but now all those thread lost the main idea why coz som pple or kids wanna do comics here and funs like 13 years old and they think they r smart lolz and ahhh i dunno why its problem to be farmer ... yes i have cows and goat and 20million dollars in my acount u will wish u have 1 of my cows m8 <3 PEACE AND LOVE
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[quote="STONES"]i dunno im verry sorry bout this lost the main probleme here the true is half of pple here when they need somthing they run to stones ... stonzy stonzy plz gime this that lend me this that i never said no .. 1 day i said no looke wot happend specialy intheface now shiting on me and started opend olf folders for stones buying chars n rent chars
NIGHTCRAWLER if u say that i rent monster and ur freind wiz aiden ask him m8 ... tell him to take hes char back ... im not like you pple think money can buy evry thing .. its freindship buy evrything i dont need to tell you who im you all no so evry1 keep ur busninse farr away from me and please stop talking bout me and shits tbh i dont care but now all those thread lost the main idea why coz som pple or kids wanna do comics here and funs like 13 years old and they think they r smart lolz
and ahhh i dunno why its problem to be farmer ... yes i have cows and goat and 20million dollars in my acount u will wish u have 1 of my cows m8 <3
PEACE AND LOVE [/quote]
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#97 2015/04/23 16:24:53 |
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WAGAWAGA |
Big stones We and coven
It's like in reality bank...they seek bank loans and then cry why it's high interest!!! Loool |
#98 2015/04/24 08:58:03 |
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TED |
"CARNAGE"Even now archers are still the most capped class number wise and I'm pretty sure make up the majority of the level 90+ uncapped. What relevance is that may I ask? if Archer was the most popular class to pick when the server started it's obvious they will be the class with the most capped chars. I think all the archers and maybe knucklers are trying to make a point of is that gains/caps need to be revised in order to keep things balanced...Looks like Ghost is well aware of that so not much more needs to be said. If you guys don't think doing near min damage verses a decently kitted sword/knuckle/axe/spear user (despite having spent an extra 1k+ hours punching for ten levels) using bow, then there's no more point discussing the subject because you are just trying to ensure you maintain your advantage! (which is human nature so understandable). Gene your argument regarding hit rate is way over stated, you know you hit more than that. If you kit up in equal gear verses a bow user you know you easily win. I don't know the best approach to restoring balance, not saying bow should have an attack increase but they at least need CON to be defence again (it was only intended to be trialled the way it was??) and to raise dex cap going forward.
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[quote="TED"][quote="CARNAGE"]Even now archers are still the most capped class number wise and I'm pretty sure make up the majority of the level 90+ uncapped. [/quote]
What relevance is that may I ask? if Archer was the most popular class to pick when the server started it's obvious they will be the class with the most capped chars.
I think all the archers and maybe knucklers are trying to make a point of is that gains/caps need to be revised in order to keep things balanced...Looks like Ghost is well aware of that so not much more needs to be said.
If you guys don't think doing near min damage verses a decently kitted sword/knuckle/axe/spear user (despite having spent an extra 1k+ hours punching for ten levels) using bow, then there's no more point discussing the subject because you are just trying to ensure you maintain your advantage! (which is human nature so understandable).
Gene your argument regarding hit rate is way over stated, you know you hit more than that. If you kit up in equal gear verses a bow user you know you easily win.
I don't know the best approach to restoring balance, not saying bow should have an attack increase but they at least need CON to be defence again (it was only intended to be trialled the way it was??) and to raise dex cap going forward.[/quote]
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#99 2015/04/24 12:52:07 |
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"TED""CARNAGE"Even now archers are still the most capped class number wise and I'm pretty sure make up the majority of the level 90+ uncapped. As far as I understood from this thread and ingame archers only deal min damage to Axers with good gear and PD up. General consensus seems to be that the current situation is very well maintainable and closer to balance than any DSoma before this. If anyone feels different about this I'd very much like to hear it. The after-cap situation has too many variables (solutions + problems) in it to discuss balance at this point.
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[quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="TED"][quote="CARNAGE"]Even now archers are still the most capped class number wise and I'm pretty sure make up the majority of the level 90+ uncapped. [/quote]
If you guys don't think doing near min damage verses a decently kitted sword/knuckle/axe/spear user (despite having spent an extra 1k+ hours punching for ten levels) using bow, then there's no more point discussing the subject because you are just trying to ensure you maintain your advantage! (which is human nature so understandable).
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As far as I understood from this thread and ingame archers only deal min damage to Axers with good gear and PD up.
General consensus seems to be that the current situation is very well maintainable and closer to balance than any DSoma before this. If anyone feels different about this I'd very much like to hear it.
The after-cap situation has too many variables (solutions + problems) in it to discuss balance at this point.[/quote]
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#100 2015/04/24 13:39:32 |
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"GHOSTLORD""TED""CARNAGE"Even now archers are still the most capped class number wise and I'm pretty sure make up the majority of the level 90+ uncapped. I would agree you have reached a better balance amongst classes than any other server....but I would have to disagree on the point of damage dealt. If you get some archers to show you their damage to other classes (capped/making sure they don't wear terrible armour ideally) you will see what I mean. It may not be absolute min damage but it's not far off. Obviously for the likes of spear you will just have to compare to an axer not using PD. Or you can just do the math taking into account def from armor/accessories/str. Think we need to remember the change that was brought in, was brought in before hogs/apai...at that point the str some have wasn't attainable.
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[quote="TED"][quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="TED"][quote="CARNAGE"]Even now archers are still the most capped class number wise and I'm pretty sure make up the majority of the level 90+ uncapped. [/quote]
If you guys don't think doing near min damage verses a decently kitted sword/knuckle/axe/spear user (despite having spent an extra 1k+ hours punching for ten levels) using bow, then there's no more point discussing the subject because you are just trying to ensure you maintain your advantage! (which is human nature so understandable).
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As far as I understood from this thread and ingame archers only deal min damage to Axers with good gear and PD up.
General consensus seems to be that the current situation is very well maintainable and closer to balance than any DSoma before this. If anyone feels different about this I'd very much like to hear it.
The after-cap situation has too many variables (solutions + problems) in it to discuss balance at this point.[/quote]
I would agree you have reached a better balance amongst classes than any other server....but I would have to disagree on the point of damage dealt. If you get some archers to show you their damage to other classes (capped/making sure they don't wear terrible armour ideally) you will see what I mean. It may not be absolute min damage but it's not far off. Obviously for the likes of spear you will just have to compare to an axer not using PD. Or you can just do the math taking into account def from armor/accessories/str.
Think we need to remember the change that was brought in, was brought in before hogs/apai...at that point the str some have wasn't attainable.[/quote]
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#101 2015/04/24 14:21:34 |
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"TED" The reason i use pd and full defense with 1h and shield is because without it I lose 90%of the time. I don't understand the logic behind wanting more damage when i can't even hit. Make dex evasion cap at 70% before even considering increasing your damage or defense again. Why should archers have no downside? Mine is dex, the sheer lack of it, no offensive aura. Archers can't have it all, they still hurt me when using my 2h and they never miss. If i easily win you wouldn't see me bothering with 1h shield and pd. If you really are searching for a change in the way it's already balanced, why do you overlook that archers and knucklers have overkill dex?
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[quote="GENEFUSER"][quote="TED"]
Gene your argument regarding hit rate is way over stated, you know you hit more than that. If you kit up in equal gear verses a bow user you know you easily win.[/quote]
The reason i use pd and full defense with 1h and shield is because without it I lose 90%of the time.
I don't understand the logic behind wanting more damage when i can't even hit.
Make dex evasion cap at 70% before even considering increasing your damage or defense again.
Why should archers have no downside?
Mine is dex, the sheer lack of it, no offensive aura.
Archers can't have it all, they still hurt me when using my 2h and they never miss.
If i easily win you wouldn't see me bothering with 1h shield and pd.
If you really are searching for a change in the way it's already balanced, why do you overlook that archers and knucklers have overkill dex?[/quote]
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#102 2015/04/24 15:20:31 |
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BRAINSTORM |
axers are tanks hence why they are strong(yes no dex) but punch if you want dex :P
bow and knuckle are dex classes seems coven just moan moan moan lol just saying :P |
#103 2015/04/24 15:41:17 |
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"BRAINSTORM"axers are tanks hence why they are strong(yes no dex) but punch if you want dex :P We're not the ones 'moaning'... Read the thread |
#104 2015/04/24 15:49:10 |
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BRAINSTORM |
cba to read all of it lol
yeah i know what the threads called, they can't change anything now tho lol to tired so have no idea what am saying lol |
#105 2015/04/24 15:50:29 |
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