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SYLVERANGEL |
this threat can continue for ages lol ...
=> need for new str mob when cap is raised => when I get to level 100 (level 91 atm) ...cap will be raised end of discussion? :) |
#136 2014/12/16 14:23:45 |
IMCON |
As a pure bow person, I feel pretty certain it's the slowest viable way to level up. Mobs are geared towards having more strength and less dex, so dex is never the problem. Even if I hit, I don't often do enough damage and I always need pots.
But I knew what I was getting into :)
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[quote="IMCON"]As a pure bow person, I feel pretty certain it's the slowest viable way to level up. Mobs are geared towards having more strength and less dex, so dex is never the problem. Even if I hit, I don't often do enough damage and I always need pots.
But I knew what I was getting into :)[/quote]
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#137 2014/12/16 14:31:16 |
HEISENBERG |
"IMCON"As a pure bow person, I feel pretty certain it's the slowest viable way to level up. Mobs are geared towards having more strength and less dex, so dex is never the problem. Even if I hit, I don't often do enough damage and I always need pots. Disagree. Its tge slowest at first but is faster long term towards end game. Would like to see some hours played comparisons....
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[quote="HEISENBERG"][quote="IMCON"]As a pure bow person, I feel pretty certain it's the slowest viable way to level up. Mobs are geared towards having more strength and less dex, so dex is never the problem. Even if I hit, I don't often do enough damage and I always need pots.
But I knew what I was getting into :)[/quote]
Disagree. Its tge slowest at first but is faster long term towards end game. Would like to see some hours played comparisons....
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#138 2014/12/16 15:27:57 |
KNUTSEL |
"BASIL"It's all well and good saying keeps stats like they are but who has time for dex :O of course no offence Ace. ive got 100% rested cause of the lack of time I am able to play if I do dex when I get home from work ur lucky if I can get .1 or if I am very lucky ill drop in a .2 so this gives me the option off do I do int? and get hammered by the big str chars out there or do I do str and still not hit anyone where if I do int I cant cast because of my dex im in a no win situation and tbh rested is a great idea but even with rested I still cant gain the stats that people are cause they play 12+ hours aday
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[quote="KNUTSEL"][quote="BASIL"]It's all well and good saying keeps stats like they are but who has time for dex :O of course no offence Ace.
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ive got 100% rested cause of the lack of time I am able to play if I do dex when I get home from work ur lucky if I can get .1 or if I am very lucky ill drop in a .2 so this gives me the option off do I do int? and get hammered by the big str chars out there or do I do str and still not hit anyone where if I do int I cant cast because of my dex im in a no win situation and tbh rested is a great idea but even with rested I still cant gain the stats that people are cause they play 12+ hours aday
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#139 2014/12/16 16:01:59 |
IMCON |
"HEISENBERG""IMCON"As a pure bow person, I feel pretty certain it's the slowest viable way to level up. Mobs are geared towards having more strength and less dex, so dex is never the problem. Even if I hit, I don't often do enough damage and I always need pots. Well, I guess I can't really know that at my level. Ask me again when I'm higher. But bearing in mind I don't plan to switch to a str weap at all if I can help it (or at the very least, there's no way I'm capping str), I find this hard to imagine.
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[quote="IMCON"][quote="HEISENBERG"][quote="IMCON"]As a pure bow person, I feel pretty certain it's the slowest viable way to level up. Mobs are geared towards having more strength and less dex, so dex is never the problem. Even if I hit, I don't often do enough damage and I always need pots.
But I knew what I was getting into :)[/quote]
Disagree. Its tge slowest at first but is faster long term towards end game. Would like to see some hours played comparisons....
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Well, I guess I can't really know that at my level. Ask me again when I'm higher.
But bearing in mind I don't plan to switch to a str weap at all if I can help it (or at the very least, there's no way I'm capping str), I find this hard to imagine.[/quote]
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#140 2014/12/16 16:49:00 |
NOTMAT |
Lets just wipe the server, remove all weapons from the game apart from a new one - Sticks, which have varied degree of pointy-ness as you gain more stick skill. Then everyone will have the exact same Strength and Dex gains, the only difference being the amount of time they spend doing Int.
But I'm sure people would still find a retarded way to complain.
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[quote="NOTMAT"]Lets just wipe the server, remove all weapons from the game apart from a new one - Sticks, which have varied degree of pointy-ness as you gain more stick skill. Then everyone will have the exact same Strength and Dex gains, the only difference being the amount of time they spend doing Int.
But I'm sure people would still find a retarded way to complain.[/quote]
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#141 2014/12/16 17:27:58 |
UBS |
"HEISENBERG""_SEPHIROTH_"Shouldn't be a attainable cap, ruins the game. Rates were set too fast an rested xp too beneficial for the top brass. This is a discussion we shouldn't need to have. The game is/was fun between 1-100. Isylver an Fin have to reinvent the wheel now because the stats get skewed after 100. Here's a quote from myself on SomaDev fourms before this server came out."Sephiroth"I think the main concern for someone thinking of investing some time into this game is how much milage does the game have? Whats the goal for this server? esoma was out like what? 7-10 years? Content was burnt out after 7. Thats decent milage. x2 rates makes the content burn out twice as fast obviously. That means we'd have 3-4 good years. At x3-4 I dont want to invest 1 year into the game an find it's basically complete an have to keep waiting on devs to increase lvl caps, add new mobs in strange locations. Have to trash my upgraded weapons an armour because devs had to bring in new stuff. Totally disagree. If there was a cap, all the ultra hardcores plum / chinese ect would be like lvl 130-140 god knows what and be so ridiculously far ahead of everyone else it would be almost pointless for the average joe to play.
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[quote="UBS"][quote="HEISENBERG"][quote="_SEPHIROTH_"]Shouldn't be a attainable cap, ruins the game. Rates were set too fast an rested xp too beneficial for the top brass. This is a discussion we shouldn't need to have. The game is/was fun between 1-100. Isylver an Fin have to reinvent the wheel now because the stats get skewed after 100. Here's a quote from myself on [url=http://somadev.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7747&start=50]SomaDev fourms[/url] before this server came out. [quote="Sephiroth"]I think the main concern for someone thinking of investing some time into this game is how much milage does the game have? Whats the goal for this server? esoma was out like what? 7-10 years? Content was burnt out after 7. Thats decent milage. x2 rates makes the content burn out twice as fast obviously. That means we'd have 3-4 good years. At x3-4 I dont want to invest 1 year into the game an find it's basically complete an have to keep waiting on devs to increase lvl caps, add new mobs in strange locations. Have to trash my upgraded weapons an armour because devs had to bring in new stuff.[/quote][/quote]
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Totally disagree.
If there was a cap, all the ultra hardcores plum / chinese ect would be like lvl 130-140 god knows what and be so ridiculously far ahead of everyone else it would be almost pointless for the average joe to play.[/quote]
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#142 2014/12/16 18:55:11 |
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"UBS"Totally disagree. So what? Did you just stumble accidentally into a mmorpg? Isylver can keep bumping up rested xp for the lower/mid levels. Your never going to compete with people that have the time to invest so compete with the people around your level. You don't have to be max level to contribute in a big pk battle or a gvw. If you can't swallow that pill then don't play a game that is time = win.
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[quote="_SEPHIROTH_"][quote="UBS"]Totally disagree.
If there was a cap, all the ultra hardcores plum / chinese ect would be like lvl 130-140 god knows what and be so ridiculously far ahead of everyone else it would be almost pointless for the average joe to play.[/quote]
So what? Did you just stumble accidentally into a mmorpg? Isylver can keep bumping up rested xp for the lower/mid levels.
Your never going to compete with people that have the time to invest so compete with the people around your level. You don't have to be max level to contribute in a big pk battle or a gvw.
If you can't swallow that pill then don't play a game that is time = win.[/quote]
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#143 2014/12/16 20:30:06 |
HEISENBERG |
"_SEPHIROTH_""UBS"Totally disagree. If there was a cap, all the ultra hardcores plum / chinese ect would be like lvl 130-140 god knows what and be so ridiculously far ahead of everyone else it would be almost pointless for the average joe to play.So what? Did you just stumble accidentally into a mmorpg? Isylver can keep bumping up rested xp for the lower/mid levels. Your never going to compete with people that have the time to invest so compete with the people around your level. You don't have to be max level to contribute in a big pk battle or a gvw. If you can't swallow that pill then don't play a game that is time = win. Nail head hit
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[quote="HEISENBERG"][quote="_SEPHIROTH_"][quote="UBS"]Totally disagree. If there was a cap, all the ultra hardcores plum / chinese ect would be like lvl 130-140 god knows what and be so ridiculously far ahead of everyone else it would be almost pointless for the average joe to play.[/quote] So what? Did you just stumble accidentally into a mmorpg? Isylver can keep bumping up rested xp for the lower/mid levels. Your never going to compete with people that have the time to invest so compete with the people around your level. You don't have to be max level to contribute in a big pk battle or a gvw. If you can't swallow that pill then don't play a game that is time = win.[/quote]
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#144 2014/12/16 21:56:14 |
BRADLEY_COLE |
know what im gonna like too see, when new monsters come ingame and we all level 100s at same monster BIG pk wars are coming then lmao that bit i cant wait for also hunting with about 40 players will be fun, cant wait
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#145 2014/12/17 00:55:56 |
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"BRADLEY_COLE"know what im gonna like too see, when new monsters come ingame and we all level 100s at same monster BIG pk wars are coming then lmao that bit i cant wait for also hunting with about 40 players will be fun, cant wait I heard Bradley_coles' char got robbed or something? This guy has the same language skills though, I'm struggling to believe its somebody new?
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[quote="POOPANTS"][quote="BRADLEY_COLE"]know what im gonna like too see, when new monsters come ingame and we all level 100s at same monster BIG pk wars are coming then lmao that bit i cant wait for also hunting with about 40 players will be fun, cant wait[/quote]
I heard Bradley_coles' char got robbed or something? This guy has the same language skills though, I'm struggling to believe its somebody new?[/quote]
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#146 2014/12/17 03:04:01 |
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"BRADLEY_COLE"know what im gonna like too see, when new monsters come ingame and we all level 100s at same monster BIG pk wars are coming then lmao that bit i cant wait for also hunting with about 40 players will be fun, cant wait Can't wait to be hunting alongside 40 people? W T F
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[quote="KAIDONE"][quote="BRADLEY_COLE"]know what im gonna like too see, when new monsters come ingame and we all level 100s at same monster BIG pk wars are coming then lmao that bit i cant wait for also hunting with about 40 players will be fun, cant wait[/quote]
Can't wait to be hunting alongside 40 people?
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#147 2014/12/17 07:47:50 |
KNUTSEL |
"BRADLEY_COLE"know what im gonna like too see, when new monsters come ingame and we all level 100s at same monster BIG pk wars are coming then lmao that bit i cant wait for also hunting with about 40 players will be fun, cant wait I cant wait for them days mr cole u will b the 1st on my list :)
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[quote="KNUTSEL"][quote="BRADLEY_COLE"]know what im gonna like too see, when new monsters come ingame and we all level 100s at same monster BIG pk wars are coming then lmao that bit i cant wait for also hunting with about 40 players will be fun, cant wait[/quote]
I cant wait for them days mr cole u will b the 1st on my list :)[/quote]
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#148 2014/12/17 10:22:09 |
UBS |
"_SEPHIROTH_""UBS"Totally disagree. "HYPNOS"A reasonable level cap is required to keep the game alive. By all means you could make it a hardcore race but eventually people would give up. For the longevity of the server the level cap needs to be kept reasonably in reach for the average person. Lets face it, if plum or the chinese were still leveling at the rate they were at the start of the game, the vast majority of players currently playing wouldnt even tickle them, gvw would be dead and probably demotivate most players. Level cap does not need increasing for a long time considering there are only like 5 or 6 not piloted / chars bought off ebay at level 100.
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[quote="UBS"][quote="_SEPHIROTH_"][quote="UBS"]Totally disagree.
If there was a cap, all the ultra hardcores plum / chinese ect would be like lvl 130-140 god knows what and be so ridiculously far ahead of everyone else it would be almost pointless for the average joe to play.[/quote]
So what? Did you just stumble accidentally into a mmorpg? Isylver can keep bumping up rested xp for the lower/mid levels.
Your never going to compete with people that have the time to invest so compete with the people around your level. You don't have to be max level to contribute in a big pk battle or a gvw.
If you can't swallow that pill then don't play a game that is time = win.[/quote]
[quote="HYPNOS"]A reasonable level cap is required to keep the game alive. By all means you could make it a hardcore race but eventually people would give up. For the longevity of the server the level cap needs to be kept reasonably in reach for the average person.
If you want soma to still be going strong in months / years to come, the game needs to be tailored towards gearing at cap rather than just level. (Which is what test server was and why it successfully lasted so long)[/quote]
Lets face it, if plum or the chinese were still leveling at the rate they were at the start of the game, the vast majority of players currently playing wouldnt even tickle them, gvw would be dead and probably demotivate most players. Level cap does not need increasing for a long time considering there are only like 5 or 6 not piloted / chars bought off ebay at level 100.[/quote]
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#149 2014/12/17 14:05:44 |
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"UBS"Lets face it, if plum or the chinese were still leveling at the rate they were at the start of the game, the vast majority of players currently playing wouldnt even tickle them, gvw would be dead and probably demotivate most players. Level cap does not need increasing for a long time considering there are only like 5 or 6 not piloted / chars bought off ebay at level 100. No I won't 'just face it' lol why don't you just face that your bitter about people being deseredly stronger than you. If what you want is to encourage the lower/mid level players to keep up then you should be campaigning for a better rested xp system that, currently is actually like 5 times more for beneficial for a level 95 than a level 41. I'll just repeat what I said in a older thread about bringing players back. Something several others agreed with. (an not just Heisenberg lol) "_SEPHIROTH_"
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[quote="_SEPHIROTH_"][quote="UBS"]Lets face it, if plum or the chinese were still leveling at the rate they were at the start of the game, the vast majority of players currently playing wouldnt even tickle them, gvw would be dead and probably demotivate most players. Level cap does not need increasing for a long time considering there are only like 5 or 6 not piloted / chars bought off ebay at level 100.[/quote]
No I won't 'just face it' lol why don't you just face that your bitter about people being deseredly stronger than you.
If what you want is to encourage the lower/mid level players to keep up then you should be campaigning for a better rested xp system that, currently is actually like 5 times [b]more[/b] for beneficial for a level 95 than a level 41.
I'll just repeat what I said in a older [url=http://myth-of-soma.com/Forum/Thread.asp?ID=5180&title=Bring+back+old+players%2FNew+content&Page=1]thread[/url] about bringing players back. Something several others agreed with. (an not just Heisenberg lol)
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Personally it was the level cap that made me quit even though I never hit it on Acaelus. Once we got to 85ish I knew the scope to 'get ahead' was gone. And for me thats whats soma is all about. The super hardcore want to stay ahead of the hardcore, the hardcore want to stay ahead of the semi casual an the semi casual want to stay ahead of the casual etc etc.
I'm sure if I kept playing Acaelus would of capped not long after Plum and I would of just immediately quit like he did, so what was the point? Before long the 'hardcore' will catch you up and you might as well be playing cod or something as your all on a similar playing field. The point of soma has been bled out once everyone is 100, you may as well restart the server.
Cater the game to the casuals and you lose your hardcore+ players. Thats what happend to warcraft after BC.[/quote][/quote]
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