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Is what I am saying wrong? If there was no cap, would the chars i mentioned not be so ridiculously far ahead of everyone else?
Cater the game to the hardcore and you lose your mid 70-90+ players. Thats what happens will happen if cap is raised too early.

If you want something to do push for more content that level 100s can play with and gain advantages in terms of gear / items, not raising the level cap.

If you want the game going strong in years time, it needs to be aiming similarly towards warcraft where its about items at a capped level (Yes caps do raise every now, but its all about items)

Cater the game towards the majority not the minority.
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[quote="UBS"]^ Is what I am saying wrong? If there was no cap, would the chars i mentioned not be so ridiculously far ahead of everyone else? Cater the game to the hardcore and you lose your mid 70-90+ players. Thats what happens will happen if cap is raised too early. If you want something to do push for more content that level 100s can play with and gain advantages in terms of gear / items, not raising the level cap. If you want the game going strong in years time, it needs to be aiming similarly towards warcraft where its about items at a capped level (Yes caps do raise every now, but its all about items) Cater the game towards the majority not the minority. [/quote]
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"_SEPHIROTH_"
"UBS"Totally disagree.

If there was a cap, all the ultra hardcores plum / chinese ect would be like lvl 130-140 god knows what and be so ridiculously far ahead of everyone else it would be almost pointless for the average joe to play.


So what? Did you just stumble accidentally into a mmorpg? Isylver can keep bumping up rested xp for the lower/mid levels.

Your never going to compete with people that have the time to invest so compete with the people around your level. You don't have to be max level to contribute in a big pk battle or a gvw.

If you can't swallow that pill then don't play a game that is time = win.


"HYPNOS"A reasonable level cap is required to keep the game alive. By all means you could make it a hardcore race but eventually people would give up. For the longevity of the server the level cap needs to be kept reasonably in reach for the average person.

If you want soma to still be going strong in months / years to come, the game needs to be tailored towards gearing at cap rather than just level. (Which is what test server was and why it successfully lasted so long)


Lets face it, if plum or the chinese were still leveling at the rate they were at the start of the game, the vast majority of players currently playing wouldnt even tickle them, gvw would be dead and probably demotivate most players. Level cap does not need increasing for a long time considering there are only like 5 or 6 not piloted / chars bought off ebay at level 100.


I'm not going to comment on raising the cap because im 50/50 on that thought however, I agree with seph when he says the scope to get ahead is what drives people to play for example my char is in no way godly or half decent however.. if I was to start playing like FULL ON I would want the cap to be raised because the way I see it is, currently my drive would be banging the gimps in that blacknights or w/e guild but knowing they have 2? I think capped chars and 3 or 4 nearing its like whats the point? IF I was to catch up i'd literally just catch up I wouldn't be able to get ahead and 'earn' an advantage over them.
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[quote="KAIDONE"][quote="UBS"][quote="_SEPHIROTH_"][quote="UBS"]Totally disagree. If there was a cap, all the ultra hardcores plum / chinese ect would be like lvl 130-140 god knows what and be so ridiculously far ahead of everyone else it would be almost pointless for the average joe to play.[/quote] So what? Did you just stumble accidentally into a mmorpg? Isylver can keep bumping up rested xp for the lower/mid levels. Your never going to compete with people that have the time to invest so compete with the people around your level. You don't have to be max level to contribute in a big pk battle or a gvw. If you can't swallow that pill then don't play a game that is time = win.[/quote] [quote="HYPNOS"]A reasonable level cap is required to keep the game alive. By all means you could make it a hardcore race but eventually people would give up. For the longevity of the server the level cap needs to be kept reasonably in reach for the average person. If you want soma to still be going strong in months / years to come, the game needs to be tailored towards gearing at cap rather than just level. (Which is what test server was and why it successfully lasted so long)[/quote] Lets face it, if plum or the chinese were still leveling at the rate they were at the start of the game, the vast majority of players currently playing wouldnt even tickle them, gvw would be dead and probably demotivate most players. Level cap does not need increasing for a long time considering there are only like 5 or 6 not piloted / chars bought off ebay at level 100.[/quote] I'm not going to comment on raising the cap because im 50/50 on that thought however, I agree with seph when he says the scope to get ahead is what drives people to play for example my char is in no way godly or half decent however.. if I was to start playing like FULL ON I would want the cap to be raised because the way I see it is, currently my drive would be banging the gimps in that blacknights or w/e guild but knowing they have 2? I think capped chars and 3 or 4 nearing its like whats the point? IF I was to catch up i'd literally just catch up I wouldn't be able to get ahead and 'earn' an advantage over them.[/quote]
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Is what I am saying wrong? If there was no cap, would the chars i mentioned not be so ridiculously far ahead of everyone else?
Cater the game to the hardcore and you lose your mid 70-90+ players. Thats what happens will happen if cap is raised too early.

If you want something to do push for more content that level 100s can play with and gain advantages in terms of gear / items, not raising the level cap.

If you want the game going strong in years time, it needs to be aiming similarly towards warcraft where its about items at a capped level (Yes caps do raise every now, but its all about items)

Cater the game towards the majority not the minority.


Just sounds ridiculous. Make Soma more like warcraft? Might as well just play warcraft then? Because all your selling me here is a 2D significantly shitter warcraft.

Esoma lasted like 7 years before cap was hit, no coincidence that the UC started dropping once the hardcore capped or near capped and Slither started introducing these same sh*t boring ideas your proposing now.
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[quote="_SEPHIROTH_"][quote="UBS"]^ Is what I am saying wrong? If there was no cap, would the chars i mentioned not be so ridiculously far ahead of everyone else? Cater the game to the hardcore and you lose your mid 70-90+ players. Thats what happens will happen if cap is raised too early. If you want something to do push for more content that level 100s can play with and gain advantages in terms of gear / items, not raising the level cap. If you want the game going strong in years time, it needs to be aiming similarly towards warcraft where its about items at a capped level (Yes caps do raise every now, but its all about items) Cater the game towards the majority not the minority. [/quote] Just sounds ridiculous. Make Soma more like warcraft? Might as well just play warcraft then? Because all your selling me here is a 2D significantly shitter warcraft. Esoma lasted like 7 years before cap was hit, no coincidence that the UC started dropping once the hardcore capped or near capped and Slither started introducing these same sh*t boring ideas your proposing now.[/quote]
Caps should be removed. Rested should now be made free up lvl 70. Half how fast you gain rested after lvl 100. No rested after lvl 110.

Then these scales can be pushed forward as needed.

Its better to slow those at the top down and speed those at the bottom up rarther than just having caps.
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[quote="WALTJR"]Caps should be removed. Rested should now be made free up lvl 70. Half how fast you gain rested after lvl 100. No rested after lvl 110. Then these scales can be pushed forward as needed. Its better to slow those at the top down and speed those at the bottom up rarther than just having caps.[/quote]
"WALTJR"Caps should be removed. Rested should now be made free up lvl 70. Half how fast you gain rested after lvl 100. No rested after lvl 110.

Then these scales can be pushed forward as needed.

Its better to slow those at the top down and speed those at the bottom up rarther than just having caps.


agreed.. just needs new areas/maps/ mobs for lev 100s to gain str/dex and int... ppl with str cap need to gain dex which cant be done with blg atm.

Gm's probably on the case working something out hopefully?
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[quote="LUPISCUS"][quote="WALTJR"]Caps should be removed. Rested should now be made free up lvl 70. Half how fast you gain rested after lvl 100. No rested after lvl 110. Then these scales can be pushed forward as needed. Its better to slow those at the top down and speed those at the bottom up rarther than just having caps.[/quote] agreed.. just needs new areas/maps/ mobs for lev 100s to gain str/dex and int... ppl with str cap need to gain dex which cant be done with blg atm. Gm's probably on the case working something out hopefully? [/quote]
Language! Seriously you're all very passionate about the game but sort it out.

Can everyone please stop saying "What SHOULD be done". Ultimately every player within this thread has a view/suggestion which will benefit their character (bias).

Anyway, there are some quality posts and most are correct. However, I feel that it should be a balancing act.

1) Cap gets lifted when enough hit the cap (multis, pilots exempt from this for obvious reasons).
2) When we lift the cap we'll approach speed of gains from lower monsters based on a tangent i.e. Dire wolf becomes double speed but Hoarde Shanis get a 10% increase.

This is what will happen, when it happens is for the team to decide.

Multi's and pilots never prosper you'll just end up at the cap quicker. You allow your enjoyment to die out by doing this not us.

It's basically the equivalent of splitting an ice cream between 3 of you then complaining you're all still hungry.

tl;dr Eat your own damn ice cream and it'll last longer.

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[quote="ISYLVER"]Language! Seriously you're all very passionate about the game but sort it out. Can everyone please stop saying "What SHOULD be done". Ultimately every player within this thread has a view/suggestion which will benefit their character (bias). Anyway, there are some quality posts and most are correct. However, I feel that it should be a balancing act. 1) Cap gets lifted when enough hit the cap (multis, pilots exempt from this for obvious reasons). 2) When we lift the cap we'll approach speed of gains from lower monsters based on a tangent i.e. Dire wolf becomes double speed but Hoarde Shanis get a 10% increase. This is what will happen, when it happens is for the team to decide. Multi's and pilots never prosper you'll just end up at the cap quicker. You allow your enjoyment to die out by doing this not us. It's basically the equivalent of splitting an ice cream between 3 of you then complaining you're all still hungry. tl;dr Eat your own damn ice cream and it'll last longer. [/quote]
"ISYLVER"Language! Seriously you're all very passionate about the game but sort it out.

Can everyone please stop saying "What SHOULD be done". Ultimately every player within this thread has a view/suggestion which will benefit their character (bias).

Anyway, there are some quality posts and most are correct. However, I feel that it should be a balancing act.

1) Cap gets lifted when enough hit the cap (multis, pilots exempt from this for obvious reasons).
2) When we lift the cap we'll approach speed of gains from lower monsters based on a tangent i.e. Dire wolf becomes double speed but Hoarde Shanis get a 10% increase.

This is what will happen, when it happens is for the team to decide.

Multi's and pilots never prosper you'll just end up at the cap quicker. You allow your enjoyment to die out by doing this not us.

It's basically the equivalent of splitting an ice cream between 3 of you then complaining you're all still hungry.

tl;dr Eat your own damn ice cream and it'll last longer.



+1
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[quote="HURRICANE"][quote="ISYLVER"]Language! Seriously you're all very passionate about the game but sort it out. Can everyone please stop saying "What SHOULD be done". Ultimately every player within this thread has a view/suggestion which will benefit their character (bias). Anyway, there are some quality posts and most are correct. However, I feel that it should be a balancing act. 1) Cap gets lifted when enough hit the cap (multis, pilots exempt from this for obvious reasons). 2) When we lift the cap we'll approach speed of gains from lower monsters based on a tangent i.e. Dire wolf becomes double speed but Hoarde Shanis get a 10% increase. This is what will happen, when it happens is for the team to decide. Multi's and pilots never prosper you'll just end up at the cap quicker. You allow your enjoyment to die out by doing this not us. It's basically the equivalent of splitting an ice cream between 3 of you then complaining you're all still hungry. tl;dr Eat your own damn ice cream and it'll last longer. [/quote] +1 [/quote]
"ISYLVER"Language! Seriously you're all very passionate about the game but sort it out.

Can everyone please stop saying "What SHOULD be done". Ultimately every player within this thread has a view/suggestion which will benefit their character (bias).

Anyway, there are some quality posts and most are correct. However, I feel that it should be a balancing act.

1) Cap gets lifted when enough hit the cap (multis, pilots exempt from this for obvious reasons).
2) When we lift the cap we'll approach speed of gains from lower monsters based on a tangent i.e. Dire wolf becomes double speed but Hoarde Shanis get a 10% increase.

This is what will happen, when it happens is for the team to decide.

Multi's and pilots never prosper you'll just end up at the cap quicker. You allow your enjoyment to die out by doing this not us.

It's basically the equivalent of splitting an ice cream between 3 of you then complaining you're all still hungry.

tl;dr Eat your own damn ice cream and it'll last longer.



And that is how you shut up a multi children :D
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[quote="MONSTERMAN"][quote="ISYLVER"]Language! Seriously you're all very passionate about the game but sort it out. Can everyone please stop saying "What SHOULD be done". Ultimately every player within this thread has a view/suggestion which will benefit their character (bias). Anyway, there are some quality posts and most are correct. However, I feel that it should be a balancing act. 1) Cap gets lifted when enough hit the cap (multis, pilots exempt from this for obvious reasons). 2) When we lift the cap we'll approach speed of gains from lower monsters based on a tangent i.e. Dire wolf becomes double speed but Hoarde Shanis get a 10% increase. This is what will happen, when it happens is for the team to decide. Multi's and pilots never prosper you'll just end up at the cap quicker. You allow your enjoyment to die out by doing this not us. It's basically the equivalent of splitting an ice cream between 3 of you then complaining you're all still hungry. tl;dr Eat your own damn ice cream and it'll last longer. [/quote] And that is how you shut up a multi children :D[/quote]
"ISYLVER"

It's basically the equivalent of splitting an ice cream between 3 of you then complaining you're all still hungry.

tl;dr Eat your own damn ice cream and it'll last longer.



Some people just HAVE to be the best though ;[
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[quote="YOSHIMITSU"][quote="ISYLVER"] It's basically the equivalent of splitting an ice cream between 3 of you then complaining you're all still hungry. tl;dr Eat your own damn ice cream and it'll last longer. [/quote] Some people just [b]HAVE[/b] to be the best though ;[[/quote]
"MONSTERMAN"
"ISYLVER"Language! Seriously you're all very passionate about the game but sort it out.

Can everyone please stop saying "What SHOULD be done". Ultimately every player within this thread has a view/suggestion which will benefit their character (bias).

Anyway, there are some quality posts and most are correct. However, I feel that it should be a balancing act.

1) Cap gets lifted when enough hit the cap (multis, pilots exempt from this for obvious reasons).
2) When we lift the cap we'll approach speed of gains from lower monsters based on a tangent i.e. Dire wolf becomes double speed but Hoarde Shanis get a 10% increase.

This is what will happen, when it happens is for the team to decide.

Multi's and pilots never prosper you'll just end up at the cap quicker. You allow your enjoyment to die out by doing this not us.

It's basically the equivalent of splitting an ice cream between 3 of you then complaining you're all still hungry.

tl;dr Eat your own damn ice cream and it'll last longer.



And that is how you shut up a multi children :D


how do we shut up people who spend their whole time at 100+str botting at palus with spear OHOHOHOH



ooft u taking that mate?
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[quote="IPHIOS"][quote="MONSTERMAN"][quote="ISYLVER"]Language! Seriously you're all very passionate about the game but sort it out. Can everyone please stop saying "What SHOULD be done". Ultimately every player within this thread has a view/suggestion which will benefit their character (bias). Anyway, there are some quality posts and most are correct. However, I feel that it should be a balancing act. 1) Cap gets lifted when enough hit the cap (multis, pilots exempt from this for obvious reasons). 2) When we lift the cap we'll approach speed of gains from lower monsters based on a tangent i.e. Dire wolf becomes double speed but Hoarde Shanis get a 10% increase. This is what will happen, when it happens is for the team to decide. Multi's and pilots never prosper you'll just end up at the cap quicker. You allow your enjoyment to die out by doing this not us. It's basically the equivalent of splitting an ice cream between 3 of you then complaining you're all still hungry. tl;dr Eat your own damn ice cream and it'll last longer. [/quote] And that is how you shut up a multi children :D[/quote] how do we shut up people who spend their whole time at 100+str botting at palus with spear OHOHOHOH ooft u taking that mate?[/quote]
Stats get quicker for lower levels? All I want is HoM.

I'm gonna start playing again.
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[quote="HEARTLESS"]Stats get quicker for lower levels? All I want is HoM. I'm gonna start playing again.[/quote]
You should - There's a good wave of new players coming up.

Merc isn't the busiest but you aren't exactly there for long so don't let that deter you.
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[quote="IPHIOS"]You should - There's a good wave of new players coming up. Merc isn't the busiest but you aren't exactly there for long so don't let that deter you.[/quote]
"IPHIOS"You should - There's a good wave of new players coming up.

Merc isn't the busiest but you aren't exactly there for long so don't let that deter you.


There's alot of new players around that are lower then level 60. Saw 3 pepople at DW's yesterday en route to hog was like wtf
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[quote="YOSHIMITSU"][quote="IPHIOS"]You should - There's a good wave of new players coming up. Merc isn't the busiest but you aren't exactly there for long so don't let that deter you.[/quote] There's alot of new players around that are lower then level 60. Saw 3 pepople at DW's yesterday en route to hog was like wtf[/quote]
ive started playing again and tbf its still pretty busy in places I ran threw wraith pit and there still a massive tribe bowing away and with swords new 50/50 balance even tho I don't get much time to play im hoping that it will b the most viable we shall see soon enough lol
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[quote="KNUTSEL"]ive started playing again and tbf its still pretty busy in places I ran threw wraith pit and there still a massive tribe bowing away and with swords new 50/50 balance even tho I don't get much time to play im hoping that it will b the most viable we shall see soon enough lol[/quote]
Doesn't say much when the first person to level 100 wasn't a botter, multi or pilot user lol :p

But the quibbles about how it should be done is a tad silly, offer your opinion and debate it, don't try to force your opinion down someone else's throat.
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[quote="S0RCERER"]Doesn't say much when the first person to level 100 wasn't a botter, multi or pilot user lol :p But the quibbles about how it [b]should[/b] be done is a tad silly, offer your opinion and debate it, don't try to force your opinion down someone else's throat.[/quote]

 

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