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aye.. not havin a pop Raven.. ur doin well with 'negotiations' x

Maybe have 2 anvils !! 1 does the ghosting..another does the +2 no fail/break
Then u take ur pick which one u go to..but have to finish what u start on the same 1
Can roll out the 'Ghost Anvil' for halloween ;p
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[quote="WOLF8"]aye.. not havin a pop Raven.. ur doin well with 'negotiations' x Maybe have 2 anvils !! 1 does the ghosting..another does the +2 no fail/break Then u take ur pick which one u go to..but have to finish what u start on the same 1 Can roll out the 'Ghost Anvil' for halloween ;p[/quote]
So I've been in discussions as to why people have left on my side of the game and there are a few and are as follows. My idea of this was to try and get as many as possible to return and what it would take for that to happen.

I have decided to keep names discreet as some of the reasons they think they could be banned for. I am just relating messages back. If they wanna quote some of the things I have mentioned here and revealing their names then that's up to them.

Dan - This is no way a genuine attack on Dan at all and we all know he's been having some issues in his personal life lately and we're sympathetic towards him and hope he gets back to normal as soon as possible. Many believe Dan has acted as more of a dictator on this server over the years. They believe there was never any compromise with him over anything and that it was either his way or no way and when people got frustrated with him, they felt he just threw the ban hammer at them and we're talking about permanent bans here, of people who have put thousands of hours in. There should be no such thing as a permanent ban other than for serious cheating. His way or no way. Whether you like it or not. It's not the "peoples Soma" it's Dan's Soma. Some believe his attitude is if you don't like it then don't play and that he has never been able to take criticism of any kind. He appears after being away for months, acts like a dictator then ban people on a whim then is gone again like a fart in the wind. They also feel the changes coming now are too late, for years the events like Xmas, Halloween and Easter were all just recycled events doing the same things over and over where as Esoma were always different. Boss spawned events were always the same, killing thousands of GM spawned bosses i.e Kelvar for average and little upgrades.

Dsoma - Some believe that Dsoma has been totally neglected by the GMs for far too long and for some, the nail in the coffin was the stat change. The +5 limit is really bad, the drop rate of the AP's is really poor and the 1% accu from KE's is really bad giving you 5% max. Ridculously low capped stats is a major issue, 20 levels to end up less in some areas then you had at 100, when humans are 60+ int higher, 50+ str higher etc. Also it's been pointed out that the +2 tabs were only introduced for Hsoma. The question of whether the GMs have given up on Dsoma and are only trying to repair Hsoma needs to be answered. It's believed Dan had issues with Dsoma and think that's never going to change so the new council must be willing to give it more attention and love to it as only one guy representing Dsoma is not good enough. Especially when he's hardly ever posting anything.

Matty / Subxero - Some are against him being put on the council after what has happened in the past. They feel he has been rewarded for corruption as he's been caught cheating and has been banned for it. They believe he's still involved in similar things like botting and also other members of his guild.

One player impatulicluar "Just got to the point where I felt I had what I could out the game.

Didn’t want to spend my free time listening to matty tom and co massive ego over world chat. Neither did I want to bother giving them more of a ego by bothering to attend gv anymore as they just wanked off having all the server on their side vrs us

Too old for the toxicity and the childishness they bring to the server.

Rates were slightly too slow for me to really want to attempt doing another int and level cap .

Little to no gm activity so sub and co were just botting farming spots.

Felt like the gms were also in a place where they were happy to hopefully let it die so I saw no point fighting it just to longer let matty and no continue"

Please remember, I am just relating messages back and I have been informed I may be banned for this also. I really hope this isn't the case as people are just being honest. All I'm trying to do is point out issues why players have left in hope we can fix as much as possible. I have done this off my own back because I still play and love the game. I'm not looking for any trouble or backlash. In my opinion the GM's must be able to take criticism and accept that changes need to be made. My main aim here is player retention as I want all players to return who've left whether it be my guild members or other rival guilds. The biggest rival guilds need each other in terms of competition for PvP, GVW and WoTW. People just need to look at the recent PvP in both races activity and see it's dead.

Also, it's been pointed out of tonight's WoTW. Two kills for humans. That's it.

Any feedback will be appreciated and again, don't shoot the messenger.

Chris / Devula
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[quote="DEVULA"]So I've been in discussions as to why people have left on my side of the game and there are a few and are as follows. My idea of this was to try and get as many as possible to return and what it would take for that to happen. I have decided to keep names discreet as some of the reasons they think they could be banned for. I am just relating messages back. If they wanna quote some of the things I have mentioned here and revealing their names then that's up to them. Dan - This is no way a genuine attack on Dan at all and we all know he's been having some issues in his personal life lately and we're sympathetic towards him and hope he gets back to normal as soon as possible. Many believe Dan has acted as more of a dictator on this server over the years. They believe there was never any compromise with him over anything and that it was either his way or no way and when people got frustrated with him, they felt he just threw the ban hammer at them and we're talking about permanent bans here, of people who have put thousands of hours in. There should be no such thing as a permanent ban other than for serious cheating. His way or no way. Whether you like it or not. It's not the "peoples Soma" it's Dan's Soma. Some believe his attitude is if you don't like it then don't play and that he has never been able to take criticism of any kind. He appears after being away for months, acts like a dictator then ban people on a whim then is gone again like a fart in the wind. They also feel the changes coming now are too late, for years the events like Xmas, Halloween and Easter were all just recycled events doing the same things over and over where as Esoma were always different. Boss spawned events were always the same, killing thousands of GM spawned bosses i.e Kelvar for average and little upgrades. Dsoma - Some believe that Dsoma has been totally neglected by the GMs for far too long and for some, the nail in the coffin was the stat change. The +5 limit is really bad, the drop rate of the AP's is really poor and the 1% accu from KE's is really bad giving you 5% max. Ridculously low capped stats is a major issue, 20 levels to end up less in some areas then you had at 100, when humans are 60+ int higher, 50+ str higher etc. Also it's been pointed out that the +2 tabs were only introduced for Hsoma. The question of whether the GMs have given up on Dsoma and are only trying to repair Hsoma needs to be answered. It's believed Dan had issues with Dsoma and think that's never going to change so the new council must be willing to give it more attention and love to it as only one guy representing Dsoma is not good enough. Especially when he's hardly ever posting anything. Matty / Subxero - Some are against him being put on the council after what has happened in the past. They feel he has been rewarded for corruption as he's been caught cheating and has been banned for it. They believe he's still involved in similar things like botting and also other members of his guild. One player impatulicluar "Just got to the point where I felt I had what I could out the game. Didn’t want to spend my free time listening to matty tom and co massive ego over world chat. Neither did I want to bother giving them more of a ego by bothering to attend gv anymore as they just wanked off having all the server on their side vrs us Too old for the toxicity and the childishness they bring to the server. Rates were slightly too slow for me to really want to attempt doing another int and level cap . Little to no gm activity so sub and co were just botting farming spots. Felt like the gms were also in a place where they were happy to hopefully let it die so I saw no point fighting it just to longer let matty and no continue" Please remember, I am just relating messages back and I have been informed I may be banned for this also. I really hope this isn't the case as people are just being honest. All I'm trying to do is point out issues why players have left in hope we can fix as much as possible. I have done this off my own back because I still play and love the game. I'm not looking for any trouble or backlash. In my opinion the GM's must be able to take criticism and accept that changes need to be made. My main aim here is player retention as I want all players to return who've left whether it be my guild members or other rival guilds. The biggest rival guilds need each other in terms of competition for PvP, GVW and WoTW. People just need to look at the recent PvP in both races activity and see it's dead. Also, it's been pointed out of tonight's WoTW. Two kills for humans. That's it. Any feedback will be appreciated and again, don't shoot the messenger. Chris / Devula [/quote]
Could just remove the anvil and all upgrades and just have mobs drop ready made items ranging from +1 to +8
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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]Could just remove the anvil and all upgrades and just have mobs drop ready made items ranging from +1 to +8[/quote]
"RAVENSOUL"Could just remove the anvil and all upgrades and just have mobs drop ready made items ranging from +1 to +8

Too much diversity in crafting upgrades for this to be feasible. Example: armor... Possible upgrades people do make right now are +dex, +str, +int, evasion, accuracy, 5-7 different magic attacks, +def, +magic def, crit ma, crit physical, and I'm sure there's a couple more I left out.

But I do think untagged drops should be taken out of game, therefore increasing chance of better items to be dropped
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[quote="FEEBLE"][quote="RAVENSOUL"]Could just remove the anvil and all upgrades and just have mobs drop ready made items ranging from +1 to +8[/quote] Too much diversity in crafting upgrades for this to be feasible. Example: armor... Possible upgrades people do make right now are +dex, +str, +int, evasion, accuracy, 5-7 different magic attacks, +def, +magic def, crit ma, crit physical, and I'm sure there's a couple more I left out. But I do think untagged drops should be taken out of game, therefore increasing chance of better items to be dropped [/quote]
"DEVULA"

Didn’t want to spend my free time listening to matty tom and co massive ego over world chat. Neither did I want to bother giving them more of a ego by bothering to attend gv anymore as they just wanked off having all the server on their side vrs us

Too old for the toxicity and the childishness they bring to the server.


The first bit is a joke, acting victim, Matty didnt turn server against you lot, you caused that yourselves haha there is a reason most dislike you lot

The second bit I've quoted is also laughable aswell, you guys clearly just couldnt take what you give and now dont bother turning up as you upset it's not you guys, bless ;>
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if you could, we'd be seeing epic GVs right now but instead you boycott, gg wp


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[quote="DOUAVACADO"][quote="DEVULA"] Didn’t want to spend my free time listening to matty tom and co massive ego over world chat. Neither did I want to bother giving them more of a ego by bothering to attend gv anymore as they just wanked off having all the server on their side vrs us Too old for the toxicity and the childishness they bring to the server. [/quote] The first bit is a joke, acting victim, Matty didnt turn server against you lot, you caused that yourselves haha there is a reason most dislike you lot The second bit I've quoted is also laughable aswell, you guys clearly just couldnt take what you give and now dont bother turning up as you upset it's not you guys, bless ;> [spoiler]if you could, we'd be seeing epic GVs right now but instead you boycott, gg wp[/spoiler] [/quote]
Let’s not derail the thread, many players have issues with one another and if that is why they left then their opinion is valid. We don’t have to agree, but let’s try to keep this thread about ideas for the game, and a place the community can put their ideas forward without worrying about being rebuked.

—Chojine
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[quote="CHOJIN_TEST"]Let’s not derail the thread, many players have issues with one another and if that is why they left then their opinion is valid. We don’t have to agree, but let’s try to keep this thread about ideas for the game, and a place the community can put their ideas forward without worrying about being rebuked. —Chojine [/quote]
"CHOJIN_TEST"Let’s not derail the thread, many players have issues with one another and if that is why they left then their opinion is valid. We don’t have to agree, but let’s try to keep this thread about ideas for the game, and a place the community can put their ideas forward without worrying about being rebuked.

—Chojine


+1 but just couldnt resist as it was so ironic
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[quote="DOUAVACADO"][quote="CHOJIN_TEST"]Let’s not derail the thread, many players have issues with one another and if that is why they left then their opinion is valid. We don’t have to agree, but let’s try to keep this thread about ideas for the game, and a place the community can put their ideas forward without worrying about being rebuked. —Chojine [/quote] +1 but just couldnt resist as it was so ironic[/quote]
"DEVULA"So I've been in discussions as to why people have left on my side of the game and there are a few and are as follows. My idea of this was to try and get as many as possible to return and what it would take for that to happen.

I have decided to keep names discreet as some of the reasons they think they could be banned for. I am just relating messages back. If they wanna quote some of the things I have mentioned here and revealing their names then that's up to them.

Dan - This is no way a genuine attack on Dan at all and we all know he's been having some issues in his personal life lately and we're sympathetic towards him and hope he gets back to normal as soon as possible. Many believe Dan has acted as more of a dictator on this server over the years. They believe there was never any compromise with him over anything and that it was either his way or no way and when people got frustrated with him, they felt he just threw the ban hammer at them and we're talking about permanent bans here, of people who have put thousands of hours in. There should be no such thing as a permanent ban other than for serious cheating. His way or no way. Whether you like it or not. It's not the "peoples Soma" it's Dan's Soma. Some believe his attitude is if you don't like it then don't play and that he has never been able to take criticism of any kind. He appears after being away for months, acts like a dictator then ban people on a whim then is gone again like a fart in the wind. They also feel the changes coming now are too late, for years the events like Xmas, Halloween and Easter were all just recycled events doing the same things over and over where as Esoma were always different. Boss spawned events were always the same, killing thousands of GM spawned bosses i.e Kelvar for average and little upgrades.

Dsoma - Some believe that Dsoma has been totally neglected by the GMs for far too long and for some, the nail in the coffin was the stat change. The +5 limit is really bad, the drop rate of the AP's is really poor and the 1% accu from KE's is really bad giving you 5% max. Ridculously low capped stats is a major issue, 20 levels to end up less in some areas then you had at 100, when humans are 60+ int higher, 50+ str higher etc. Also it's been pointed out that the +2 tabs were only introduced for Hsoma. The question of whether the GMs have given up on Dsoma and are only trying to repair Hsoma needs to be answered. It's believed Dan had issues with Dsoma and think that's never going to change so the new council must be willing to give it more attention and love to it as only one guy representing Dsoma is not good enough. Especially when he's hardly ever posting anything.

Matty / Subxero - Some are against him being put on the council after what has happened in the past. They feel he has been rewarded for corruption as he's been caught cheating and has been banned for it. They believe he's still involved in similar things like botting and also other members of his guild.

One player impatulicluar "Just got to the point where I felt I had what I could out the game.

Didn’t want to spend my free time listening to matty tom and co massive ego over world chat. Neither did I want to bother giving them more of a ego by bothering to attend gv anymore as they just wanked off having all the server on their side vrs us

Too old for the toxicity and the childishness they bring to the server.

Rates were slightly too slow for me to really want to attempt doing another int and level cap .

Little to no gm activity so sub and co were just botting farming spots.

Felt like the gms were also in a place where they were happy to hopefully let it die so I saw no point fighting it just to longer let matty and no continue"

Please remember, I am just relating messages back and I have been informed I may be banned for this also. I really hope this isn't the case as people are just being honest. All I'm trying to do is point out issues why players have left in hope we can fix as much as possible. I have done this off my own back because I still play and love the game. I'm not looking for any trouble or backlash. In my opinion the GM's must be able to take criticism and accept that changes need to be made. My main aim here is player retention as I want all players to return who've left whether it be my guild members or other rival guilds. The biggest rival guilds need each other in terms of competition for PvP, GVW and WoTW. People just need to look at the recent PvP in both races activity and see it's dead.

Also, it's been pointed out of tonight's WoTW. Two kills for humans. That's it.

Any feedback will be appreciated and again, don't shoot the messenger.

Chris / Devula


I enjoyed reading this.

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[quote="NITE"][quote="DEVULA"]So I've been in discussions as to why people have left on my side of the game and there are a few and are as follows. My idea of this was to try and get as many as possible to return and what it would take for that to happen. I have decided to keep names discreet as some of the reasons they think they could be banned for. I am just relating messages back. If they wanna quote some of the things I have mentioned here and revealing their names then that's up to them. Dan - This is no way a genuine attack on Dan at all and we all know he's been having some issues in his personal life lately and we're sympathetic towards him and hope he gets back to normal as soon as possible. Many believe Dan has acted as more of a dictator on this server over the years. They believe there was never any compromise with him over anything and that it was either his way or no way and when people got frustrated with him, they felt he just threw the ban hammer at them and we're talking about permanent bans here, of people who have put thousands of hours in. There should be no such thing as a permanent ban other than for serious cheating. His way or no way. Whether you like it or not. It's not the "peoples Soma" it's Dan's Soma. Some believe his attitude is if you don't like it then don't play and that he has never been able to take criticism of any kind. He appears after being away for months, acts like a dictator then ban people on a whim then is gone again like a fart in the wind. They also feel the changes coming now are too late, for years the events like Xmas, Halloween and Easter were all just recycled events doing the same things over and over where as Esoma were always different. Boss spawned events were always the same, killing thousands of GM spawned bosses i.e Kelvar for average and little upgrades. Dsoma - Some believe that Dsoma has been totally neglected by the GMs for far too long and for some, the nail in the coffin was the stat change. The +5 limit is really bad, the drop rate of the AP's is really poor and the 1% accu from KE's is really bad giving you 5% max. Ridculously low capped stats is a major issue, 20 levels to end up less in some areas then you had at 100, when humans are 60+ int higher, 50+ str higher etc. Also it's been pointed out that the +2 tabs were only introduced for Hsoma. The question of whether the GMs have given up on Dsoma and are only trying to repair Hsoma needs to be answered. It's believed Dan had issues with Dsoma and think that's never going to change so the new council must be willing to give it more attention and love to it as only one guy representing Dsoma is not good enough. Especially when he's hardly ever posting anything. Matty / Subxero - Some are against him being put on the council after what has happened in the past. They feel he has been rewarded for corruption as he's been caught cheating and has been banned for it. They believe he's still involved in similar things like botting and also other members of his guild. One player impatulicluar "Just got to the point where I felt I had what I could out the game. Didn’t want to spend my free time listening to matty tom and co massive ego over world chat. Neither did I want to bother giving them more of a ego by bothering to attend gv anymore as they just wanked off having all the server on their side vrs us Too old for the toxicity and the childishness they bring to the server. Rates were slightly too slow for me to really want to attempt doing another int and level cap . Little to no gm activity so sub and co were just botting farming spots. Felt like the gms were also in a place where they were happy to hopefully let it die so I saw no point fighting it just to longer let matty and no continue" Please remember, I am just relating messages back and I have been informed I may be banned for this also. I really hope this isn't the case as people are just being honest. All I'm trying to do is point out issues why players have left in hope we can fix as much as possible. I have done this off my own back because I still play and love the game. I'm not looking for any trouble or backlash. In my opinion the GM's must be able to take criticism and accept that changes need to be made. My main aim here is player retention as I want all players to return who've left whether it be my guild members or other rival guilds. The biggest rival guilds need each other in terms of competition for PvP, GVW and WoTW. People just need to look at the recent PvP in both races activity and see it's dead. Also, it's been pointed out of tonight's WoTW. Two kills for humans. That's it. Any feedback will be appreciated and again, don't shoot the messenger. Chris / Devula [/quote] I enjoyed reading this. [/quote]
Not sure if this has been mentioned before but...

All bosses
- update the drop files (remove most of the crap that other normal mobs drop and add new harder items)
- increase the rate of good tag items to drop
- make certain bosses spawn more frequently so we can start farming them for souls etc

Before I took a break I could see that for most bosses people are not excited enough to even bother to attend.
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[quote="AFRO"]Not sure if this has been mentioned before but... All bosses - update the drop files (remove most of the crap that other normal mobs drop and add new harder items) - increase the rate of good tag items to drop - make certain bosses spawn more frequently so we can start farming them for souls etc Before I took a break I could see that for most bosses people are not excited enough to even bother to attend.[/quote]
Trying to play catch up .... but I find myself always waiting for rested at level 60 . Can’t it just be double to 100 or something so I can at least do some bosses soon.

I just hunt low end mobs and see no one around at present making it feel like a 1 player game for new people
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[quote="DALE_WINTON"]Trying to play catch up .... but I find myself always waiting for rested at level 60 . Can’t it just be double to 100 or something so I can at least do some bosses soon. I just hunt low end mobs and see no one around at present making it feel like a 1 player game for new people [/quote]
"DALE_WINTON"Trying to play catch up .... but I find myself always waiting for rested at level 60 . Can’t it just be double to 100 or something so I can at least do some bosses soon.

I just hunt low end mobs and see no one around at present making it feel like a 1 player game for new people


That's half the problem (waiting for rested) - I hunted mostly without rested up to 90

Around lvl 90+ it starts becoming worth it to wait for rested and/or purchase from donation store otherwise just crack on without rested

For example, you would probably gain more % hunting none-rested for 4 hrs than you would gain waiting for rested cause if you wait 4hrs for rested it's still going to take 2 hours to hit the same amount as if you just cracked on for an extra 2 hrs none-rested

However, this isn't me dis-agreeing with you though and I do think if they kept rested unlimited until like 75/80 it would be alright and useful for players catching up

If it's to 100, you will get to 100 way to fast and be lacking items you would have normally attained on the way
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[quote="DOUAVACADO"][quote="DALE_WINTON"]Trying to play catch up .... but I find myself always waiting for rested at level 60 . Can’t it just be double to 100 or something so I can at least do some bosses soon. I just hunt low end mobs and see no one around at present making it feel like a 1 player game for new people [/quote] That's half the problem (waiting for rested) - I hunted mostly without rested up to 90 Around lvl 90+ it starts becoming worth it to wait for rested and/or purchase from donation store otherwise just crack on without rested For example, you would probably gain more % hunting none-rested for 4 hrs than you would gain waiting for rested cause if you wait 4hrs for rested it's still going to take 2 hours to hit the same amount as if you just cracked on for an extra 2 hrs none-rested However, this isn't me dis-agreeing with you though and I do think if they kept rested unlimited until like 75/80 it would be alright and useful for players catching up If it's to 100, you will get to 100 way to fast and be lacking items you would have normally attained on the way [/quote]
Maybe all that's needed regarding the anvil is increasing the % of success at attempting going +1, +2, +3, +4, +5 and leaving the +6, +7, +8 at its % currently then it will allow for more chance for players making some basic/average gear and still leave aiming for max gear with some risk and challenge?
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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]Maybe all that's needed regarding the anvil is increasing the % of success at attempting going +1, +2, +3, +4, +5 and leaving the +6, +7, +8 at its % currently then it will allow for more chance for players making some basic/average gear and still leave aiming for max gear with some risk and challenge?[/quote]
with current suggestions going on about the anvil and possible solutions and tweaks... i think the currently suggested tweaks would be more appealing.
Everybody needs a good weapon... oo0 matron.... and an increase as u suggest to the anvil success..could still result in an appalling run of luck with the rng system as it stands.

A week ago it was being discussed we would have a failproof item ( aside from the upgrades to make it ) to get to +3 .
hell..lets not go backwards!
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[quote="AMOEBA"]with current suggestions going on about the anvil and possible solutions and tweaks... i think the currently suggested tweaks would be more appealing. Everybody needs a good weapon... oo0 matron.... and an increase as u suggest to the anvil success..could still result in an appalling run of luck with the rng system as it stands. A week ago it was being discussed we would have a failproof item ( aside from the upgrades to make it ) to get to +3 . hell..lets not go backwards![/quote]
I was trying to suggest that ie if the current % of a success going for +1 is set at say 52% increasing it to say 75/80% would increase your chance, going +2 might be set at 46% again increasing to say 65/70% is a bigger chance of being a success. No harm in throwing suggestions out there discussing it will help find the right tweak needed :)
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[quote="RAVENSOUL"]I was trying to suggest that ie if the current % of a success going for +1 is set at say 52% increasing it to say 75/80% would increase your chance, going +2 might be set at 46% again increasing to say 65/70% is a bigger chance of being a success. No harm in throwing suggestions out there discussing it will help find the right tweak needed :)[/quote]
well..u council guys gona be busy...so good luck with all x
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[quote="AMOEBA"]well..u council guys gona be busy...so good luck with all x[/quote]

 

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