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WAKKAA |
I'm sure my drops were normal I just believe the drops should be altered a little to be more kind :-)
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#376 2016/11/07 18:00:32 |
GHOSTLORD |
"OPENTHEDOOR"Ghost I hope this doesn't sound ungreatful as its not meant to, but I think you need some help from the community with regards to priority. The fact that there were several posts asking for lower level stuff contradicts your statement though. These were just examples. Take them how you want. :) Keep in mind that the community is divided on priorities. Not long ago people were asking for a lvl cap raise. Now we're doing a pre-patch which will delay the lvl cap increase. But it is just as important. "WAKKAA"I'm sure my drops were normal I just believe the drops should be altered a little to be more kind :-) We plan to make them more fun but not overpowered. BLG have always been kind even on ESoma.
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[quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="OPENTHEDOOR"]Ghost I hope this doesn't sound ungreatful as its not meant to, but I think you need some help from the community with regards to priority.
Finito shouldn't be spending any of his time changing dire wolves. I would be suprised if anyone hunts these longer than 5 minutes while making a character.
The same could be said for devil warriors. People spend what.. 2-5 hours on these with the new changes? If that most would most likely skip and hunt valks.
Your time should be spent on mobs palus / LB upwards as this is where the big time is invested and where it needs mixing up and changed.
The last thing we need is Fin being a busy fool.[/quote]
The fact that there were several posts asking for lower level stuff contradicts your statement though.
These were just examples. Take them how you want. :)
Keep in mind that the community is divided on priorities. Not long ago people were asking for a lvl cap raise. Now we're doing a pre-patch which will delay the lvl cap increase. But it is just as important.
[quote="WAKKAA"]I'm sure my drops were normal I just believe the drops should be altered a little to be more kind :-)[/quote]
We plan to make them more fun but not overpowered. BLG have always been kind even on ESoma. [/quote]
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#377 2016/11/07 18:51:36 |
MITCHY |
After doing 25odd str at hoarde shanis and being able to count on one hand the drops I've had blg are like having the flood gates opened dropwise!
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#378 2016/11/07 19:10:51 |
OPENTHEDOOR |
Ghost, I understand perfectly and I know what people need and require for all levels.
The two monsters in your first post (along with many others) don't need time spent on because people just level through them in an hour or two. Even if it takes 5 minutes for Fin to fix direwolves, that's 5 minutes better spent else where. I appreciate they are examples, but it makes it look like you are spending time on these and I am just trying to nudge you into more useful paths for investing your time.
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[quote="OPENTHEDOOR"]Ghost, I understand perfectly and I know what people need and require for all levels.
The two monsters in your first post (along with many others) don't need time spent on because people just level through them in an hour or two.
Even if it takes 5 minutes for Fin to fix direwolves, that's 5 minutes better spent else where.
I appreciate they are examples, but it makes it look like you are spending time on these and I am just trying to nudge you into more useful paths for investing your time.
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#379 2016/11/07 19:32:10 |
LUPISCUS |
"OPENTHEDOOR"Ghost, I understand perfectly and I know what people need and require for all levels. bet you sit next to your wife while she's driving and tell her how to do it properly :p C,mon.. let the gms do their thing , im sure they aint fools. We've had 3 years of stable server and updates. Have faith
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[quote="LUPISCUS"][quote="OPENTHEDOOR"]Ghost, I understand perfectly and I know what people need and require for all levels.
The two monsters in your first post (along with many others) don't need time spent on because people just level through them in an hour or two.
Even if it takes 5 minutes for Fin to fix direwolves, that's 5 minutes better spent else where.
I appreciate they are examples, but it makes it look like you are spending time on these and I am just trying to nudge you into more useful paths for investing your time.
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bet you sit next to your wife while she's driving and tell her how to do it properly :p
C,mon.. let the gms do their thing , im sure they aint fools. We've had 3 years of stable server and updates. Have faith[/quote]
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#380 2016/11/07 19:42:12 |
BALLER |
Lupi you're deluded lad, you may be happy but there's hell of a lot of people who want to see changes. Get your head out the gms ass it's embarrassing kid...every post ...
Everyone respects the gms for the work they've done in keeping sever up that's not a issue, but there's a few people who actually know the edits that's been craving for years are in fact simple edits that can be done in a few hours... I mean a few hours edits can have a huge impact on server moral and usercount. Fin obviously is a big fan of soma but what keeps him intrested is the mechanics the tweeks and changes that don't nessesarly have impact in game but things most don't understand the effort gone into it, ( rested, ss + pen ect) Isly was always the guy to do changes that were visible front of house ect and his interest has obviously gone, no disrespect to him as I've known him for years but how can anyone be that busy in life to not even check in once a week for 10minutes. We all want the game todo well we are all begging for changes apart from lupi ofc ...
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[quote="BALLER"]Lupi you're deluded lad, you may be happy but there's hell of a lot of people who want to see changes. Get your head out the gms ass it's embarrassing kid...every post ...
Everyone respects the gms for the work they've done in keeping sever up that's not a issue, but there's a few people who actually know the edits that's been craving for years are in fact simple edits that can be done in a few hours... I mean a few hours edits can have a huge impact on server moral and usercount.
Fin obviously is a big fan of soma but what keeps him intrested is the mechanics the tweeks and changes that don't nessesarly have impact in game but things most don't understand the effort gone into it, ( rested, ss + pen ect)
Isly was always the guy to do changes that were visible front of house ect and his interest has obviously gone, no disrespect to him as I've known him for years but how can anyone be that busy in life to not even check in once a week for 10minutes.
We all want the game todo well we are all begging for changes apart from lupi ofc ... [/quote]
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#381 2016/11/07 21:58:41 |
GHOSTLORD |
"BALLER" He hasn't lost interest, you're making that up. All his time is taken up by his worth and his family. That's the reason why you don't see him as often. He still checks in when he can.
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[quote="GHOSTLORD"][quote="BALLER"]
Isly was always the guy to do changes that were visible front of house ect and his interest has obviously gone, no disrespect to him as I've known him for years but how can anyone be that busy in life to not even check in once a week for 10minutes.
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He hasn't lost interest, you're making that up. All his time is taken up by his worth and his family. That's the reason why you don't see him as often. He still checks in when he can.[/quote]
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#382 2016/11/07 22:08:32 |
LUPISCUS |
;o Isylv was on 6/11/16 ( yesterday)
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#383 2016/11/07 22:16:59 |
EVIL_JR |
he probly "checks in" more than you think
imagine the pms emails discussions with finito/ ghostlord reading forums.. Imagine he does part of these whilst at work/ commuting.. but even so.. Give the lad a break ffs |
#384 2016/11/07 23:06:21 |
FINITO [Staff] |
Just a quick update, still going through item drops and making changes. I under estimated how long this would take.
Plan with the drops is as follows: Merge drops where they are spread across spawns Now that there is no limit on the amount of different items a spawn can have, multiple spawns that have different items dropping will be merged together. This will have quite a big effect where this happens as you could be hunting a monster and will never see a specific drop because that spawn doesn't drop it. After the change so long as the NPC is on the same map and isn't involved with a boss any spawn of that NPC will have the same drop list. Look at where they drop and the drop rate of each equipment item and make adjustments This is to make sure that the NPC drops the correct equipment for their stats and include all the pieces of equipment. I also want to add in some overlap aswell. Drop rates will be adjusted where needed. Look at where they drop and the drop rate of each crafting and upgrade item and make adjustments Similar to the equipment items. Will spread out the upgrade items most likely in tiers (based on mob stats) and increase the drop rates. There will also be overlap aswell between tiers. Look at monsters in stat groups and give them general items they should all drop This will mostly be consumable items with some crafting, quest, spell upgrade, and upgrade items. Look at barr drop rate and amount and make adjustments There are places where the barr drop rate is really low or the amount is low. There are also places where it is high aswell and I might reduce some of them (the extra drops you will be getting from drop list and rate changes will make up for it though). The overlap is just there to have the possibility of getting items that you will be able to use later on, earlier.
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[quote="FINITO"]Just a quick update, still going through item drops and making changes. I under estimated how long this would take.
[b]Plan with the drops is as follows:[/b]
[b]Merge drops where they are spread across spawns[/b]
Now that there is no limit on the amount of different items a spawn can have, multiple spawns that have different items dropping will be merged together. This will have quite a big effect where this happens as you could be hunting a monster and will never see a specific drop because that spawn doesn't drop it. After the change so long as the NPC is on the same map and isn't involved with a boss any spawn of that NPC will have the same drop list.
[b]Look at where they drop and the drop rate of each equipment item and make adjustments[/b]
This is to make sure that the NPC drops the correct equipment for their stats and include all the pieces of equipment. I also want to add in some overlap aswell. Drop rates will be adjusted where needed.
[b]Look at where they drop and the drop rate of each crafting and upgrade item and make adjustments[/b]
Similar to the equipment items. Will spread out the upgrade items most likely in tiers (based on mob stats) and increase the drop rates. There will also be overlap aswell between tiers.
[b]Look at monsters in stat groups and give them general items they should all drop[/b]
This will mostly be consumable items with some crafting, quest, spell upgrade, and upgrade items.
[b]Look at barr drop rate and amount and make adjustments[/b]
There are places where the barr drop rate is really low or the amount is low. There are also places where it is high aswell and I might reduce some of them (the extra drops you will be getting from drop list and rate changes will make up for it though).
The overlap is just there to have the possibility of getting items that you will be able to use later on, earlier.[/quote]
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#385 2016/11/08 12:11:50 |
SALVA |
Fin will you make the rates faster 0-100?
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#386 2016/11/08 13:13:15 |
GHOSTLORD |
"SALVA"Fin will you make the rates faster 0-100? Currently there are no plans for this. Other than raising rested. It will happen in the future though. |
#387 2016/11/08 13:47:25 |
LUPISCUS |
any news on wep craft skill?. still stuk @ 190.0 ty
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#388 2016/11/08 13:50:59 |
GOTWEPS |
I think not having a rate increase in this patch is a mistake, rested isn't really an issue to anyone who logs out in a town, players are lost between level 50-90 because of the slowdowns with no 'fun' (pvp gvw wow) content participation worth while until 90+ imo
Inb4 lupi crys about casuals having it too easy
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[quote="GOTWEPS"]I think not having a rate increase in this patch is a mistake, rested isn't really an issue to anyone who logs out in a town, players are lost between level 50-90 because of the slowdowns with no 'fun' (pvp gvw wow) content participation worth while until 90+ imo
Inb4 lupi crys about casuals having it too easy[/quote]
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#389 2016/11/08 14:40:57 |
MASOCHIST |
can't speak for other casuals but i definitely won't be playing again without a rate increase i'll just wait i guess
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#390 2016/11/08 14:50:29 |
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