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ok if u think so
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[quote="LUPISCUS"]ok if u think so .[/quote]
back on topic before it gets derailed.

any word from fin on an eta?
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[quote="MIKEYYB93"]back on topic before it gets derailed. any word from fin on an eta?[/quote]
While fixing stuff/making changes, any chance you can change it so devil morale chars aren't warped to tyt when they leave SS, only to get insta banged by a guard and get a nice 5% pen?

Played for a few hours earlier for the first time in months, had some pen left over from the last time it happened a few months ago, few hours later I'd got rid. Went to SS this evening, got warped to tyt and a nice juicy 5% pen again. Might as well not have bothered logging on at all today. Have no motivation to get rid of it again tbh.
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[quote="CYROX"]While fixing stuff/making changes, any chance you can change it so devil morale chars aren't warped to tyt when they leave SS, only to get insta banged by a guard and get a nice 5% pen? Played for a few hours earlier for the first time in months, had some pen left over from the last time it happened a few months ago, few hours later I'd got rid. Went to SS this evening, got warped to tyt and a nice juicy 5% pen again. Might as well not have bothered logging on at all today. Have no motivation to get rid of it again tbh. [/quote]
make a penalty npc where u can get rid of penalty for payment

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and make us gain morale from mobs we gain no % from as now i only gain morale from apai but im not even hunting them anymore
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[quote="KEKKET"]make a penalty npc where u can get rid of penalty for payment edit and make us gain morale from mobs we gain no % from as now i only gain morale from apai but im not even hunting them anymore[/quote]
I like 2.5% for 250k
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[quote="BALLER"]I like 2.5% for 250k [/quote]
Excuse my ignorance but how does moral points work? Is it % based?
I only ask because I hunt apai having capped the other mobs but when in penalty it still allows me to work it off at wbm etc. Even though I would normally not gain %there
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[quote="DEIMOS"]Excuse my ignorance but how does moral points work? Is it % based? I only ask because I hunt apai having capped the other mobs but when in penalty it still allows me to work it off at wbm etc. Even though I would normally not gain %there[/quote]
I will look at getting WBM stats changed and KL HP and exp. I might also end up applying the exp reduction to WBM that is already part of level cap raise though. WBM exp is way too high and is a lot of the reason why they have stayed the way they are.

"CYROX"While fixing stuff/making changes, any chance you can change it so devil morale chars aren't warped to tyt when they leave SS, only to get insta banged by a guard and get a nice 5% pen?

Does this only happen for SS? I will get this sorted out before the next SS.

"DEIMOS"Excuse my ignorance but how does moral points work? Is it % based?
I only ask because I hunt apai having capped the other mobs but when in penalty it still allows me to work it off at wbm etc. Even though I would normally not gain %there

Moral is based on NPC kills (moral is added when NPC dies). When you have penalty exp, you are unable to gain moral though. Might change this as it doesn't make any difference if you do or don't.

"KEKKET"make a penalty npc where u can get rid of penalty for payment

edit

and make us gain morale from mobs we gain no % from as now i only gain morale from apai but im not even hunting them anymore

Moral should already be gained right now (if don't have penalty exp, and not in freemode) without needing the monsters to give you %.

I don't have a problem with adding such an NPC, so long as it still works well as a penalty.
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[quote="FINITO"]I will look at getting WBM stats changed and KL HP and exp. I might also end up applying the exp reduction to WBM that is already part of level cap raise though. WBM exp is way too high and is a lot of the reason why they have stayed the way they are. [quote="CYROX"]While fixing stuff/making changes, any chance you can change it so devil morale chars aren't warped to tyt when they leave SS, only to get insta banged by a guard and get a nice 5% pen?[/quote] Does this only happen for SS? I will get this sorted out before the next SS. [quote="DEIMOS"]Excuse my ignorance but how does moral points work? Is it % based? I only ask because I hunt apai having capped the other mobs but when in penalty it still allows me to work it off at wbm etc. Even though I would normally not gain %there[/quote] Moral is based on NPC kills (moral is added when NPC dies). When you have penalty exp, you are unable to gain moral though. Might change this as it doesn't make any difference if you do or don't. [quote="KEKKET"]make a penalty npc where u can get rid of penalty for payment edit and make us gain morale from mobs we gain no % from as now i only gain morale from apai but im not even hunting them anymore[/quote] Moral should already be gained right now (if don't have penalty exp, and not in freemode) without needing the monsters to give you %. I don't have a problem with adding such an NPC, so long as it still works well as a penalty.[/quote]
Sounds like mobs ain't giving moral if you are out of there exp range

As for wbm change if there brought inline with other mobs and the hp is reduced leading to them dieing quicker thus dropping more items, I'm all for it

For me they was there as a bot deterant, was hard to near impossible for ppl to bot on them, having lower stats in the long run as they stayed on kl longer
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[quote="JAHEIRA"]Sounds like mobs ain't giving moral if you are out of there exp range As for wbm change if there brought inline with other mobs and the hp is reduced leading to them dieing quicker thus dropping more items, I'm all for it For me they was there as a bot deterant, was hard to near impossible for ppl to bot on them, having lower stats in the long run as they stayed on kl longer[/quote]
"FINITO"I don't have a problem with adding such an NPC, so long as it still works well as a penalty.


It can't be bar...that's way to easy - quest or dropped item reduces PEN, maybe add to all mobs with a small change of dropping so low level chars can sell to high level chars.

-Naughty Pill - removes 2.5% penalty; Just make then quite a rare drop for all mobs, and have it higher at T8 bosses.

-Agree with skill/con mobs all the time - I think this is a must (maybe a new name so it doesn't seem event related, quest associated also??)

- Strongly agree on very high rates of levelling to 90 (x5) IMO

- No extra success rates at anvil, shit dies it dies, SR's shouldn't have scrolls, just upgrades (but certain number per day....I've written this before)

More ideas for mo

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[quote="ZYAR"][quote="FINITO"]I don't have a problem with adding such an NPC, so long as it still works well as a penalty.[/quote] It can't be bar...that's way to easy - quest or dropped item reduces PEN, maybe add to all mobs with a small change of dropping so low level chars can sell to high level chars. -Naughty Pill - removes 2.5% penalty; Just make then quite a rare drop for all mobs, and have it higher at T8 bosses. -Agree with skill/con mobs all the time - I think this is a must (maybe a new name so it doesn't seem event related, quest associated also??) - Strongly agree on very high rates of levelling to 90 (x5) IMO - No extra success rates at anvil, shit dies it dies, SR's shouldn't have scrolls, just upgrades (but certain number per day....I've written this before) More ideas for mo [/quote]
"JAHEIRA"Sounds like mobs ain't giving moral if you are out of there exp range


Oh, sorry. When adding the Devil Soma no exp gain. I made it so that moral wasn't gained either, and I thought this would be OK. But I guess it isn't much of an issue if moral can be gained without exp.

"ZYAR"
"FINITO"I don't have a problem with adding such an NPC, so long as it still works well as a penalty.


It can't be bar...that's way to easy - quest or dropped item reduces PEN, maybe add to all mobs with a small change of dropping so low level chars can sell to high level chars.

-Naughty Pill - removes 2.5% penalty; Just make then quite a rare drop for all mobs, and have it higher at T8 bosses.

-Agree with skill/con mobs all the time - I think this is a must (maybe a new name so it doesn't seem event related, quest associated also??)

- Strongly agree on very high rates of levelling to 90 (x5) IMO

- No extra success rates at anvil, shit dies it dies, SR's shouldn't have scrolls, just upgrades (but certain number per day....I've written this before)

More ideas for mo


Yeah, barr is probably too easy for a lot of characters.

Well the scrolls for SR still use up an SR. Although my fear is that people start stock piling them, but could always give them an expiration. The main advantage is just to get an SR in advance and be able to use it even if a crafter is not online.

I would much prefer that skill and con monsters are not a requirement and that both could be gained somehow during normal leveling or looking for drops. But having them in town and more characters be around is useful.
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[quote="FINITO"][quote="JAHEIRA"]Sounds like mobs ain't giving moral if you are out of there exp range[/quote] Oh, sorry. When adding the Devil Soma no exp gain. I made it so that moral wasn't gained either, and I thought this would be OK. But I guess it isn't much of an issue if moral can be gained without exp. [quote="ZYAR"][quote="FINITO"]I don't have a problem with adding such an NPC, so long as it still works well as a penalty.[/quote] It can't be bar...that's way to easy - quest or dropped item reduces PEN, maybe add to all mobs with a small change of dropping so low level chars can sell to high level chars. -Naughty Pill - removes 2.5% penalty; Just make then quite a rare drop for all mobs, and have it higher at T8 bosses. -Agree with skill/con mobs all the time - I think this is a must (maybe a new name so it doesn't seem event related, quest associated also??) - Strongly agree on very high rates of levelling to 90 (x5) IMO - No extra success rates at anvil, shit dies it dies, SR's shouldn't have scrolls, just upgrades (but certain number per day....I've written this before) More ideas for mo [/quote] Yeah, barr is probably too easy for a lot of characters. Well the scrolls for SR still use up an SR. Although my fear is that people start stock piling them, but could always give them an expiration. The main advantage is just to get an SR in advance and be able to use it even if a crafter is not online. I would much prefer that skill and con monsters are not a requirement and that both could be gained somehow during normal leveling or looking for drops. But having them in town and more characters be around is useful.[/quote]
"JAHEIRA"Sounds like mobs ain't giving moral if you are out of there exp range


Warmess on Hsoma give moral to capped str chars, they have 56 str

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[quote="ZYAR"][quote="JAHEIRA"]Sounds like mobs ain't giving moral if you are out of there exp range[/quote] Warmess on Hsoma give moral to capped str chars, they have 56 str [/quote]
I agree on the penalty removal being a item, but surly 1 shouldn't remove a full death penalty, 1% per item ?
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[quote="JAHEIRA"]I agree on the penalty removal being a item, but surly 1 shouldn't remove a full death penalty, 1% per item ? [/quote]
mess have 91str, it appears ur looking at dsoma mess...
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[quote="MIKEYYB93"]mess have 91str, it appears ur looking at dsoma mess...[/quote]
"ZYAR"
"JAHEIRA"Sounds like mobs ain't giving moral if you are out of there exp range


Warmess on Hsoma give moral to capped str chars, they have 56 str



It is a Devil Soma only issue where I changed it so their monsters would not give them exp if have capped it (this also includes not giving moral).
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[quote="FINITO"][quote="ZYAR"][quote="JAHEIRA"]Sounds like mobs ain't giving moral if you are out of there exp range[/quote] Warmess on Hsoma give moral to capped str chars, they have 56 str [/quote] It is a Devil Soma only issue where I changed it so their monsters would not give them exp if have capped it (this also includes not giving moral).[/quote]
"FINITO"
"ZYAR"
"JAHEIRA"Sounds like mobs ain't giving moral if you are out of there exp range


Warmess on Hsoma give moral to capped str chars, they have 56 str



It is a Devil Soma only issue where I changed it so their monsters would not give them exp if have capped it (this also includes not giving moral).


Think its mainly just a caped char issue or close, hog/apai take to long to kill to get any decent moral

Not a big issue but wilst where talking about moral. , could we increase what points you need for last moral, dsoma get devil around lvl 50, make pk bigger moral loss , seems to easy imo to get out of bad moral, could check how many holy waters/ unholy waters are ingame
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[quote="JAHEIRA"][quote="FINITO"][quote="ZYAR"][quote="JAHEIRA"]Sounds like mobs ain't giving moral if you are out of there exp range[/quote] Warmess on Hsoma give moral to capped str chars, they have 56 str [/quote] It is a Devil Soma only issue where I changed it so their monsters would not give them exp if have capped it (this also includes not giving moral).[/quote] Think its mainly just a caped char issue or close, hog/apai take to long to kill to get any decent moral Not a big issue but wilst where talking about moral. , could we increase what points you need for last moral, dsoma get devil around lvl 50, make pk bigger moral loss , seems to easy imo to get out of bad moral, could check how many holy waters/ unholy waters are ingame[/quote]

 

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