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Agree with jac .. soma was / is a grind game. That's why ppl play.. the basic mechanics have no need to change. We have qwikker xp rates and rested.

As regards Fin's question.. ''easy qwik fixes'' ..

Even tho i don't play d-soma ..seems they need more drops ..surely that give more incentive to play...and

H-soma .. make the anvil a touch more forgiving.... and the possibility of a few more upgrade items as drops..atm its tough to get boss kills with 1 guild and multicharacters playing

( make alt gems have 2 x items inside .. tho i would say that ..selfish crafter that i am..only me uses bones after all ;p)
#loveandsupportthe MenInBlue
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[quote="LUPISCUS"]Agree with jac .. soma was / is a grind game. That's why ppl play.. the basic mechanics have no need to change. We have qwikker xp rates and rested. As regards Fin's question.. ''easy qwik fixes'' .. Even tho i don't play d-soma ..seems they need more drops ..surely that give more incentive to play...and H-soma .. make the anvil a touch more forgiving.... and the possibility of a few more upgrade items as drops..atm its tough to get boss kills with 1 guild and multicharacters playing ( make alt gems have 2 x items inside .. tho i would say that ..selfish crafter that i am..only me uses bones after all ;p) #loveandsupportthe MenInBlue [/quote]
Tbh the upgrade system is brutal but it's soma and that's how it is, I don't think it needs to be changed especially the success rate. Those that play more or take more risks should have better gear or else everyone will be running about in top end stuff.
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[quote="JHAELIEN"]Tbh the upgrade system is brutal but it's soma and that's how it is, I don't think it needs to be changed especially the success rate. Those that play more or take more risks should have better gear or else everyone will be running about in top end stuff. [/quote]
underlying problem is player count.

Release the level cap raise ASAP, even if its buggy and see if people come back.

If they don't, let Lupiscus, Monsterman and Jackelpup play a 3 man server.

IF EVERYONE JUST LOOKS AT THE SCREENSHOTS FROM THE START OF THE GAME THEY WILL SEE THAT THESE WERE THE GOOD TIMES.

It doesn't matter if the anvil is 100%, or magmas drop +8 intense weapons with 100% accuracy.

No players, no game
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[quote="VOICEOFSOMA"]underlying problem is player count. Release the level cap raise ASAP, even if its buggy and see if people come back. If they don't, let Lupiscus, Monsterman and Jackelpup play a 3 man server. IF EVERYONE JUST LOOKS AT THE SCREENSHOTS FROM THE START OF THE GAME THEY WILL SEE THAT THESE WERE THE GOOD TIMES. It doesn't matter if the anvil is 100%, or magmas drop +8 intense weapons with 100% accuracy. No players, no game[/quote]
"VOICEOFSOMA"underlying problem is player count.

Release the level cap raise ASAP, even if its buggy and see if people come back.

If they don't, let Lupiscus, Monsterman and Jackelpup play a 3 man server.

IF EVERYONE JUST LOOKS AT THE SCREENSHOTS FROM THE START OF THE GAME THEY WILL SEE THAT THESE WERE THE GOOD TIMES.

It doesn't matter if the anvil is 100%, or magmas drop +8 intense weapons with 100% accuracy.

No players, no game


+ 1 on this. You can only see the FUN days of soma only on its screenies. Miss those old days tho ;/
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[quote="SIR_ABSHOLOM"][quote="VOICEOFSOMA"]underlying problem is player count. Release the level cap raise ASAP, even if its buggy and see if people come back. If they don't, let Lupiscus, Monsterman and Jackelpup play a 3 man server. IF EVERYONE JUST LOOKS AT THE SCREENSHOTS FROM THE START OF THE GAME THEY WILL SEE THAT THESE WERE THE GOOD TIMES. It doesn't matter if the anvil is 100%, or magmas drop +8 intense weapons with 100% accuracy. No players, no game[/quote] + 1 on this. You can only see the FUN days of soma only on its screenies. Miss those old days tho ;/[/quote]
Can't base the future of a server on 'most players never reaching lvl 100'
I levelled knutsel to lvl 100 no hacks, mods etc and that was fairly casual playing and was also a long time ago. Can't hamper the progress of many because of the opinions of a few.
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[quote="CYPHUS"]Can't base the future of a server on 'most players never reaching lvl 100' I levelled knutsel to lvl 100 no hacks, mods etc and that was fairly casual playing and was also a long time ago. Can't hamper the progress of many because of the opinions of a few.[/quote]
Holdthedoor has some good points. From a 'casual' perspective after 1100 hours mostly levelling (86 i think)I still can't really participate in things most play this game for gvw/wotw/pk/bosses and with the user count it's
Not even worth putting in the next 800+ hours to cap at this point. It needs to be quicker imo.

I genuinely have no idea how people cap more than one character lol there's very little brain stimulation other than what film you're watching!
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[quote="WAKKAA"]Holdthedoor has some good points. From a 'casual' perspective after 1100 hours mostly levelling (86 i think)I still can't really participate in things most play this game for gvw/wotw/pk/bosses and with the user count it's Not even worth putting in the next 800+ hours to cap at this point. It needs to be quicker imo. I genuinely have no idea how people cap more than one character lol there's very little brain stimulation other than what film you're watching! [/quote]
There needs to be some progress even if it's slow atm. Something like just introducing the abyss map back with bosses maybe higher drop rates while you work on the level cap increase. Just something for players that are level 100/100% to actually do outside of quests/crafting or pking. Also agree with CYPHUS can't keep putting progress off because people aren't yet capped the server is over 3 years old at this point.
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[quote="JHAELIEN"]There needs to be some progress even if it's slow atm. Something like just introducing the abyss map back with bosses maybe higher drop rates while you work on the level cap increase. Just something for players that are level 100/100% to actually do outside of quests/crafting or pking. Also agree with CYPHUS can't keep putting progress off because people aren't yet capped the server is over 3 years old at this point.[/quote]
"VOICEOFSOMA"
let Lupiscus, Monsterman and Jackelpup play a 3 man server.


You mean people who play their own characters and achieve level 100 and keep playing (Lupi & MM) and the other people who play casually and won't/haven't reached level 100 (me and many others)?

That wouldn’t be a 3 man server – it represents “most” players. The server wouldn’t change much from what it is right now at all.

"CYPHUS"Can't hamper the progress of many because of the opinions of a few.


I agree but I think you have it vice-versa. It is the few that botted to death and multi-ed their characters and the “many” are the ones who are playing themselves (most of whom will never hit 100). It is those “few” that are wanting to wipe the server and/or add more and more at the detriment of the “many” who are playing the game as it was always intended.

Of course some people (like you, Lupi, MM etc.) legitimately reached level 100 but let’s not lose sight of the faster speed of the server that was integral in that. Some continue to play (Lupi, MM). Some do not (Knutsel) and some create new characters and develop them in new ways (I don’t need to tell you who they are).

8)

Jac

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[quote="JACKELPUP"][quote="VOICEOFSOMA"] let Lupiscus, Monsterman and Jackelpup play a 3 man server. [/quote] You mean people who play their own characters and achieve level 100 and keep playing (Lupi & MM) and the other people who play casually and won't/haven't reached level 100 (me and many others)? That wouldn’t be a 3 man server – it represents “most” players. The server wouldn’t change much from what it is right now at all. [quote="CYPHUS"]Can't hamper the progress of many because of the opinions of a few.[/quote] I agree but I think you have it vice-versa. It is the few that botted to death and multi-ed their characters and the “many” are the ones who are playing themselves (most of whom will never hit 100). It is those “few” that are wanting to wipe the server and/or add more and more at the detriment of the “many” who are playing the game as it was always intended. Of course some people (like you, Lupi, MM etc.) legitimately reached level 100 but let’s not lose sight of the faster speed of the server that was integral in that. Some continue to play (Lupi, MM). Some do not (Knutsel) and some create new characters and develop them in new ways (I don’t need to tell you who they are). 8) Jac [/quote]
Lots of people don't play because the game isnt fair in their opinion

So many people have been banned 3 even 4 times and are still playing (Not to mention other offences that people dont get banned for)

I doubt these players will ever come back regardless of what gets done to the game.

Unbanning people would just put the nail in the coffin.
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[quote="WATCH0R"]Lots of people don't play because the game isnt fair in their opinion So many people have been banned 3 even 4 times and are still playing (Not to mention other offences that people dont get banned for) I doubt these players will ever come back regardless of what gets done to the game. Unbanning people would just put the nail in the coffin.[/quote]
Having leveled a couple chars 1-100 and finished off a couple chars 85-100, some players won't ever see level 100 not because of server speed or changes made but simply because they just don't have what it takes to get to level 100 or the items needed to make the grind even a bit decent. Might sound a tad harsh but it is what is.
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[quote="JHAELIEN"]Having leveled a couple chars 1-100 and finished off a couple chars 85-100, some players won't ever see level 100 not because of server speed or changes made but simply because they just don't have what it takes to get to level 100 or the items needed to make the grind even a bit decent. Might sound a tad harsh but it is what is.[/quote]
"JHAELIEN"simply because they just don't have what it takes to get to level 100

What, like no job or friends?

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[quote="MASOCHIST"][quote="JHAELIEN"]simply because they just don't have what it takes to get to level 100[/quote] What, like no job or friends? [/quote]
It takes nothing but spare time to get anywhere in this game it's not a feat of strength :>
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[quote="WAKKAA"]It takes nothing but spare time to get anywhere in this game it's not a feat of strength :>[/quote]
"JHAELIEN"Tbh the upgrade system is brutal but it's soma and that's how it is, I don't think it needs to be changed especially the success rate. Those that play more or take more risks should have better gear or else everyone will be running about in top end stuff.


The upgrade system is brutal.. like maizhing said.. he dont have +6-7-8 gear as neither do i .. i also have 190 + wep crafting skill .. ive taken many risks and play '' plenty'' yet best item i have is +5. I kno there are some lucky ppl running round in +7 and +8 stuff..
All im sugesting is the anvil is a touch kinder for upgrades. Mayb the success rate is upped slightly every 5 or 10 craft skill so its on a slider scale.
newer/ solo players ..find it hard enough to find mats for 1 x dp or keen eye .. then see it blow up in smoke on the 1st attempt.. THIS is whats off putting ..... a slight tweaking to the anvil ..and proly more important... a few more upgrade items dropping to make up for the brutality.
A slight tweak aint gona see every1 running round in +8 gear... just might help a little

( With a few exceptions .. most of that +7 and +8 gear is all within the players of 1 guild .. one guild running round in mega gear is why the pvp/ competition side of things has disappeared)
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[quote="LUPISCUS"][quote="JHAELIEN"]Tbh the upgrade system is brutal but it's soma and that's how it is, I don't think it needs to be changed especially the success rate. Those that play more or take more risks should have better gear or else everyone will be running about in top end stuff. [/quote] The upgrade system is brutal.. like maizhing said.. he dont have +6-7-8 gear as neither do i .. i also have 190 + wep crafting skill .. ive taken many risks and play '' plenty'' yet best item i have is +5. I kno there are some lucky ppl running round in +7 and +8 stuff.. All im sugesting is the anvil is a touch kinder for upgrades. Mayb the success rate is upped slightly every 5 or 10 craft skill so its on a slider scale. newer/ solo players ..find it hard enough to find mats for 1 x dp or keen eye .. then see it blow up in smoke on the 1st attempt.. THIS is whats off putting ..... a slight tweaking to the anvil ..and proly more important... a few more upgrade items dropping to make up for the brutality. A slight tweak aint gona see every1 running round in +8 gear... just might help a little ( With a few exceptions .. most of that +7 and +8 gear is all within the players of 1 guild .. one guild running round in mega gear is why the pvp/ competition side of things has disappeared)[/quote]
If the old days were the best, despite the 1000's of hours people have put in I don't see why not wipe,

Gives time for changes to be implemented properly and I wouldn't be happy to loose the hours and hours and hours put in on number of characters, but surely the best bit is when server is most active and competitive,

Better gvw wotw and more active pvp,

If this server dies out and another released if that happened, we would all start again, and I'd rather then not happen with the work the team has done,

At least the core player base is already here and just email out to all existing account as new release date and hopefully attract a few new,

Just a thought gives everyone a fresh place to start again while a great deal more time for changes and updates
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[quote="MYNAMEIS"]If the old days were the best, despite the 1000's of hours people have put in I don't see why not wipe, Gives time for changes to be implemented properly and I wouldn't be happy to loose the hours and hours and hours put in on number of characters, but surely the best bit is when server is most active and competitive, Better gvw wotw and more active pvp, If this server dies out and another released if that happened, we would all start again, and I'd rather then not happen with the work the team has done, At least the core player base is already here and just email out to all existing account as new release date and hopefully attract a few new, Just a thought gives everyone a fresh place to start again while a great deal more time for changes and updates [/quote]
"MYNAMEIS"If the old days were the best, despite the 1000's of hours people have put in I don't see why not wipe,

Gives time for changes to be implemented properly and I wouldn't be happy to loose the hours and hours and hours put in on number of characters, but surely the best bit is when server is most active and competitive,

Better gvw wotw and more active pvp,

If this server dies out and another released if that happened, we would all start again, and I'd rather then not happen with the work the team has done,

At least the core player base is already here and just email out to all existing account as new release date and hopefully attract a few new,

Just a thought gives everyone a fresh place to start again while a great deal more time for changes and updates


you think the acvtive players here atm ..that havent quit.. but played on ( yes..there are many more than 10 of them) will start all over again to see the same multie/pilots do exactly the same thing as theyve done on this server ? Dream on
Would end up as a one guild server.... but with 0 other players.
There are ppl here training/ levelling hoping to put a stop to the ''1 guild'' server ..Let that continue
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[quote="LUPISCUS"][quote="MYNAMEIS"]If the old days were the best, despite the 1000's of hours people have put in I don't see why not wipe, Gives time for changes to be implemented properly and I wouldn't be happy to loose the hours and hours and hours put in on number of characters, but surely the best bit is when server is most active and competitive, Better gvw wotw and more active pvp, If this server dies out and another released if that happened, we would all start again, and I'd rather then not happen with the work the team has done, At least the core player base is already here and just email out to all existing account as new release date and hopefully attract a few new, Just a thought gives everyone a fresh place to start again while a great deal more time for changes and updates [/quote] you think the acvtive players here atm ..that havent quit.. but played on ( yes..there are many more than 10 of them) will start all over again to see the same multie/pilots do exactly the same thing as theyve done on this server ? Dream on Would end up as a one guild server.... but with 0 other players. There are ppl here training/ levelling hoping to put a stop to the ''1 guild'' server ..Let that continue [/quote]

 

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